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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:32 AM
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Obama / Edwards 08 : an UNBEATABLE ticket
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 11:36 AM by rndmprsn
With Obama's ability to build diverse coalitions and inspire across lines and Edwards fiery southern populism and strong support among white male's...IMHO this would be an unbeatable ticket.

can i get an amen?

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toadzilla Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:33 AM
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1. not happening!
no way in hell. john wont take the vp slot again.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:33 AM
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2. Edwards can't bring NC with him. Obama/Webb is one the Repukes will be running from
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:34 AM
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3. i like that ticket too...alot
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toadzilla Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:33 PM
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29. I'm a Webb fan aswell.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:34 AM
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4. Doubt Edwards would accept - Obama/Clark for me
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:36 AM
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11. ? Clark has aligned himself with Clinton. How very forgiving of you. : - )
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 11:43 AM by patrice
Gives additional credence to the theory that Hillary and Obama are really The Machine covering it's bets on opposite ends of the main issue spectrum: Hillary = pro-War vs. Obama = "anti"-this-War.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:35 AM
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5. Only if it's the other way around
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:36 AM
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10. Or of if it is Edwards & Hillary, or Hillary & EDWARDS
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:35 AM
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6. With Richardson as Secretary of State. We'd have ALL of the bases covered.
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 11:41 AM by patrice
I don't expect it to happen though, so it's going to be Edwards ALL of the Way for me. And I'm seriously worried that Obama is going to get our ass handed to us.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:35 AM
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7. Obama/Oprah!
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:36 AM
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8. No fan of the Shapeshifter
sorry, Edwards is the far better candidate.

If elected, Obama will take his orders directly from the corporations. He doesn't need a Veep.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:36 AM
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9. Edwards is already on record as saying no to the VP position.
Obama is going to find it tough going in the South I'm afraid.

He's lost much of the gay vote.

I would be willing to vote for him, but he'll need to come clean on a couple of things first. Support of Donnie McClurkin is one of them.

Taking lobbyist/PAC money is another.

And he needs to explain what a "grave infraction" is, because he says Bush/Cheney haven't committed one, and therefore shouldn't be impeached.

:wtf:

I'm a bit concerned about a man following Bush/Cheney into office thinking that what they've done is OK.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:42 AM
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12. at this point
as long as it's NOT Hillary Clinton as VP I'm OK with the Edwards idea. It would still be Billary if he picked her and that's not good for the party or the country
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:44 AM
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13. I think Edwards' talents would be best utlized as AG...
We could actually have a democracy if the voter's section of justice was cleaned up!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:49 AM
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16. There are some VERY big issues on the table that the AG will never touch. Nuclear Power for one.
Not to mention, of course, the financial viability of National Health Care that is not Universal.

AG? No thank you, it's Edwards or Un-Committed ALL of the Way!
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:58 AM
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19. Edwards doesn't care what you people think he would
"best be utilized as." :eyes:

He's running for president.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:08 PM
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20. Edwards is no fool - he's thinking about...
...other ways to make a difference. I was an Edwards supporter until last night, and I'm sure he sees the writing on the wall as clearly as I do. Of course he's got a plan B.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:12 PM
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21. Oh so you're a quitter.
Gotcha.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:16 PM
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22. Is this your first election??
If Edwards can't win his birth state, which sits right beside his home state, he's not going to win the nomination.

I'm exactly the opposite of a quitter ~ the goal is not to get Edwards nominated; it's to beat the Republicans.

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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:25 PM
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25. Yea, well I plan on sticking to the goal of getting Edwards
nominated.

If you want to quit and dump him after only three states, go for it.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:28 PM
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26. My goal has always been to beat the Republicans...
I've been around long enough to know how Democratic idealism can screw us over if we're not strategic.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:45 AM
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14. Unless, of course, the Republicans run against them in the general.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:46 AM
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15. We MUST talk about this . . .
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:53 AM
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17. it should be someone with military experience
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 11:54 AM by ginnyinWI
That's the only deficit I see in Obama's qualities. Especially if McCain is the republican dude.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:53 AM
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18. You realize this infuriates people who are tired of
hearing some Obama supporters imply Edwards supporters need to wave the white flag.

Right?

All of this talk about how Edwards should be this or that in an Obama administration is obnoxious and a huge turn off.

Why don't you concentrate on your campaign.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:21 PM
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23. Obama won't pick Edwards
He will want foreign policy or military weight next to him on the ticket. People with long experience and strong reputations. Clark, Biden, someone like that.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:23 PM
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24. Richardson would help with experience, Hispanics...
and those all-important Western electoral votes.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:31 PM
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27. Yes, Richardson, too nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:44 PM
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30. For people who don't want this to be about Race, you sure asking for it from the Racists.
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 12:45 PM by patrice
No matter how much things should be other than they are, they ARE as they are and, yes, a certain amount of "hope" and positive thinking will preclude some of the negativity in what we're dealing with, but it is delusional to think it will exclude ALL of it, so the question becomes: How much can we actually "wish" away and how much is more permanent than that. I have heard NO plan for dealing with these facts and suggestion such as this, that Richardson run with Obama, are evidence of Real hallucination.

You can expect/demand that a fish will sing all you want and it's still a fish and has NO vocal chords.

Solidarity, polichick.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:47 PM
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32. That's pretty sad, but could be true. nt
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:53 PM
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34. Racism is soooooooo f-ing CRAZY. I worry a great deal about giving it "legitimate" cover.
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 12:58 PM by patrice
And this has concrete relevance to the city in which I live.

Yes, the Younger Generation is different, but the Old Ones are still here and running Real Deep right now.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:45 PM
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31. Obama needs an attack dog as his VP
Richardson isn't that.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:48 PM
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33. Any suggestions?? nt
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:49 PM
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35. The most obvious one is Jim Webb.
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 01:49 PM by NJSecularist
I think he has the best chance.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:52 PM
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37. That would satisfy a lot of white males...
But it doesn't do anything to get those Western states the pundits say we need.
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:32 PM
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28. It was a beatable ticket in 2004
with Edwards as the VP. Sorry, I don't see the unbeatable aspect of it. Edwards is the same guy who refused to commit 100% to Kerry. Instead he went his own maverick ways as a VP and it hurt us. I can't see any reason why the same thing wouldn't happen this election. I ask, what does Edwards bring to a ticket? Will he help us put a "blue"-print on a red state? What exactly does he provide to a ticket? He gave Kerry absolutely no advantage at all, and not to mention the fact that he got absolutely hammered by Cheney in the VP debates.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:50 PM
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36. Nope
Obama needs to pick someone else. Sorry, just my opinion. Been there done that.
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