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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:10 AM
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Has Clinton won ANY state in the pledged delegate count?
Current scorecard of pledged delegates: BO-63 HC-48 JE-26

How the states went:
Iowa: Obama by 1 (O 16, C 15)
New Hampshire: Tied (O 9, C 9)
Nevada: Obama by 1 (O 13, C 12)
South Carolina: Obama by 13 (O 25, C 12)

Numbers are taken from CNN's scorecard candidate pages: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/candidates/#val=1918 (Obama) and http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/candidates/#val=1746 (Clinton)

I know Clinton expects to win some states on 2/5, but isn't this a bit of an under-reported story? She hasn't actually won ANY states yet?
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:15 AM
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1. No she hasn't.
She hasn't had a *strong* win yet. It is way under reported. Obama has essentially tied or won each state, thus far.

And last night he had a very impressive win, by any measure. Like he said, he now has the most votes, and the most delegates.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:28 AM
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2. SC and Illinois are his two strongest states
Hillary's strong states are yet to come, NY, Cal, Ohio, and they all have high delegate counts, unllike the ones we have seen thus far. So it is not an underreported story really. We are just getting started! Super Tuesday will be huge, but will not crown a winner, IMO.

I have been supporting Clinton, but I could totally get behind an Obama presidency, or for that matter, an Edwards presidency. They all look so good!

We'll let this part of the election play out, then we can unite and get our nominee elected, no matter which one succeeds. This is always the hardest part because it puts dems at odds with each other.



Congrats to Obama for a very convincing win last night. He sounds very presidential!

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:38 AM
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3. Well, Super Tuesday has a load of delegates, but not 2025. And that's what's needed.
But it will give the Tuesday winner a big chunk of momentum.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:55 AM
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4. Michigan didn't count YET but she won by a large majority
40 uncommitted against her divided by two. She didn't campaign and the other candidate had conyers and his wife campaigning for him.

Right now they won't count. But the DNC said they will count the votes in convention.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:00 PM
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7. Michigan will never count
No way the DNC allows a state with only one viable candidate on it's ballot to seat delegates. They'll be skiing in hell before that happens.
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:25 AM
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15. The DNC did not say they'd count our votes.
Granholm and all the Michiganders are saying that, but the DNC is not. I'm not holding my breath.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:47 AM
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5. No. I think she should definitely consider dropping out of the race
:hi:

Only kidding. Just providing HRC with a little Edwards-style coverage.

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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:58 AM
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6. she has the "super" delegates which count more
it stinks
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:01 PM
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8. super delegates are phantom numbers
nothing more.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:01 PM
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9. Over 500 Supers haven't said where they are going, yet.
And those that have said can change anytime from now till Aug.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:54 PM
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10. That's subject to change as they can change their minds. We'll see. nt
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:04 PM
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14. to all of the above
super delegates in my state already declared before caucus.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:57 PM
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11. Nope
...and it's much to early to be counting delegates.

Obama has 1.5% of all delegates, Hillary has 1.1% of all delegates.


They need >50% to secure the nomination. Better get some of this -> :popcorn:
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dwahzon Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:45 PM
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12. Good catch MH1
I knew he'd won the Nevada delegate count even though the media types keep referring to NV as a Clinton win. I didn't realize that she hadn't outright won any of the delegate counts.

Guess that doesn't fit in with Traditional Media's predetermined CW.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:52 PM
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13. Yeah, Hillary's "wins" have been narrow.
While Obama has had a couple decent margins in IA and SC. (Hillary's big win in Michigan owes to no campaigning, and several other delegates, Obama and Edwards among them, being off the ballot.)

Obama and Edwards will have a tough time on Feb 5th, though, due to there being so many states in play. Name recognition is going to carry the Clintons a long way, so Obama and Edwards are still the underdogs.
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