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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:45 AM
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Where Does John Edwards Go From Here And Who Does He Help And Hurt More By Staying In The Race?
I am really agnostic about his candidacy...Any of the three are ok with me ...

I am just curious what his end game is..
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:52 AM
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1. He will help the People-and the Dem. Party by staying in and keeping his
ideas in full view
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:54 AM
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3. Where Will He Win?
IMHO, I do not think he will win a single state on Super Tuesday...
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:56 AM
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6. You want him to run as an independent?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:57 AM
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7. That Would Almost Certainly Benefit The Republicans
Wouldn't be good...
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:58 AM
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8. Then these Obama and Hillary supporters should shut the hell up!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:00 AM
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9. I'm Just Soliciting People's Views
I'm not vain enough to think my opinion here means jack shit other than to let folks here who tend to agree with me know they are not alone...
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:06 AM
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24. I've said it before. I believe Sen. Obama should offer the AG job to John Edwards
Offering the AG position allows Edwards to stay on the campaign trail, supporting Obama. Allows Edwards to, as AG, target large monopolies in the US and internationally that truly is what hurts Main St. and the middle class. It is far superior than offering the VP position, which John Edwards would not accept.

imo
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foxer Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 01:44 PM
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26. Obama should be Sec to UN under Edwards
If Obama or Hillary win what has really changed?
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:22 PM
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27. If Hillary wins, we are not going forward as a country. And Welcome to DU :) nt
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 03:23 PM by ihelpu2see
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:01 AM
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22. Of course not--you are making Assumptions.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:00 AM
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21. he will pick up delegates along the way-the question is: What will he do with them?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:53 AM
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2. He goes to Super Tuesday to try to collect his first wins
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:54 AM
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4. Agnostic? You aren't sure if his candidacy exists?
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 08:55 AM
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5. Agnostic About His Impact On The Race
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Yanez Houston Jordan Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:00 AM
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10. He helps Democrats by stating in the race; his presence pulls the two centrists to the left, and if
he is a kingmaker at the convention, I suspect he'd either force Obama to accept universal health care or force Hillary to accept fair trade.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:16 AM
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15. I am so fucking tired of hearing how "left" Edwards is.
His record indicates that he's a DLC conservative Dem. His rhetoric is just that - all words. He is NOT a left candidate, he just played one in this race.
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Yanez Houston Jordan Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 11:18 AM
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25. I can understand how anyone devoted to Clark would not understand political evolution in a candidate
Edwards was voting for populist progressive causes back when Clark was still a Republican.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:54 PM
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29. Wow!
Considering that Clark was NEVER a Republican and you still think so (bet you don't know that Clark kicked Edwards' ass and Edwards lied about that on TV today, too in five of the nine races in which they both competed, but I digress).

Read Republican talking points much.

BTW, Clark has more brain power in his little finger than Edwards has in his whole house and hairdo.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:03 PM
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30. I'm so fed up with your lame attacks on John Edwards.
He is the most progressive candidate running. And his Senate record isn't nearly as bad as you or others present it as, and he most certainly wasn't a centrist. I'm sick of hearing that. I hear that about Barack all the time. And Hillary for that matter. The same tired RW talking point line about any Democrat gets old. I remember when people said Clark was a DINO and a Republican. You knew it was false, and so did I. And now you're using the same bullshit on Edwards.

Fuck that. If you don't believe politicians can and do evolve, and for the better, than I want you to call Al Gore a phony right here and now like you have John Edwards. Because Gore has evolved 100% more than John Edwards, and lords knows I'm glad. And lord knows we'd be better off as a nation with him as President, and as a party if he would have ran in 2004 or 2008.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:05 AM
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11. John has forced Hillary and Barack to deal with his message,
and that's a good thing for everyone. And by staying in the race, it's good for everyone who really wants a change in America. Barack and Hillary are beholden to lobbyists and the big corporations, and are not in a position to make the sweeping changes we need as a country.

All that money in the form of campaign donations comes with expectations.

We cannot have the same parties who are responsible for much of the abuses we've had forced on us under Bush to sit down at the table and renegotiate a better deal for us. They won't do it because it will impact their bottom line.

I hear a lot of promises from Barack and Hillary, but no real solutions or details about how they intend to keep their promises. John Edwards has put his money where his mouth is and cut off all that lobbyist and PAC money. That takes real guts when you're competing with big bucks celebrity candidates.

Edwards has already proven that this isn't about money, it's about US - the American people - the forgotten piece of the pie. And that's why I'm sticking with John. Barack and Hillary will be more of the same: lots of promises for change, but no way to carry them out.

What the hell, George Bush even said if he were running, he'd be running on a platform of change! Saying it, and being in a position to do it are two different things. Follow the money, the money trail tells the story.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:03 AM
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23. Yes, that is what I said above--in other words, Edwards will keep them honest.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:06 AM
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12. He helps those without a voice...Eugene Robinson woke up one day
and actually said that, before slipping back into MSM mode....

Those without a voice are the ones at the bottom of the corporate pile...which will be most of us before long.

He's the canary in the coal mine.

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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:18 AM
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17. I am lower middle class, working paycheck to paycheck, want
single-payer healthcare, think the trade agreements are bad for this country and want corporations OUT of politics - and John Edwards does NOT speak for me. His record indicates that everything that has come out of his mouth this campaign cycle is pure shit.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:30 AM
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20. Then you approve of what's coming out of the mouths of the two corporatists??
The ones grabbing the money from corporations??
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:52 PM
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28. No. I think all our candidates STINK.
I vote in a week and I am at a fucking loss.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 10:04 PM
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31. Wow kudos for moving your attacks on Edwards to ALL of the Democrats running.
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 10:05 PM by Kerry2008
Class act.

I'll gladly take any of the big three.

And if you think Hillary Clinton stinks, but Wes Clark sure doesn't.

And I'm sure he speaks fondly towards Barack Obama and John Edwards.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:13 AM
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13. He keeps spreading his message. And he helps the average American by staying in.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:14 AM
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14. he'll stay until he runs out of money
and can't pay his staff anymore

He helps Obama by staying in the race, probably.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:17 AM
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16. BINGO!
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whatdoyouthink Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:23 AM
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18. Well I,m Sure he will
Have Better Luck on Super tue (at least i hope)
And Agree with Pulling Clinton and Obama to be More Progressive on a cpl of Issues

Besides - If there is a close "tie" with both them - then it will be up the "tie" breaker at who might win - unless Both Hillary AND Obama patch things up, and run together...

And Don't forget - After 3 rounds of voting! the Delegates can go else were! Maybe to John?
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Mrspacker Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 09:25 AM
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19. He helps keep the otherwise disenfranchised Dem
stay connected to the party.
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