WOW!! FIFTY FIVE PERCENT!

[mudesi]

I'm impressed!

Obama didn't just win South Carolina, he conquered it. Clinton and Edwards were left in his dust. What a remarkable outcome. America is "not ready" for a black president? What a crock. Not only did he win, he won a majority!

I was never an Obama supporter, but he is not as conservative as Clinton, and I am extremely relieved to see that Clinton didn't win tonight! :woohoo:

If only America would wake up and realize that Kucinich was the only true liberal candidate, but alas, if it has to be one of these three, let it be Obama or Edwards. Anyone but that DLC corporate shill named Hillary Clinton.

Good job, Mr. Obama!
:toast:

[Captain_Nemo]

1. Why do you think he is not as conservative as Clinton? I am realy curious as to why you think this.

[DJ13]

5. Here-

March 20, 2007
Is Obama More Liberal Than Kucinich?

No wonder Dennis Kucinich scolded Democrats for deploying over the debate horizon when confronted with Fox News Channel's cameras for their Nevada debate. It turns out that Kucinich has harbored a secret conservative streak -- at least compared to the supposedly moderate Barack Obama. McClatchy reports on a National Journal analysis of the declared candidates for President from both parties and ranks those who have served in Congress (via Memeorandum):

The most liberal member of Congress running for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination isn't Rep. Dennis Kucinich of Ohio.

It's Sen. Barack Obama of Illinois.

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On the liberal side, Obama rides high for 2006, one of only two years he has in national office. He generated the 10th most liberal voting record in the Senate. He joins a multiple-tied first place for most liberal economic record, sharing that with Barbara Boxer, Ted Kennedy, and John Kerry, among others. On foreign policy, he's almost as bad, with an 85 rating and a #13 ranking among liberals. He scores a 77 on social issues, which puts him more towards the center of the liberal caucus. He is no moderate in practice, even if he purports to be moderate in his approach.

Whither Hillary? She drifts into the center of her caucus overall, with 63 on economics and 62 on foreign policy in 2006. Those came from a concerted effort to become more appealing to centrists and moderates in preparation for this run. Her 70.8 rating for 2006 shows a significant change from her 78.8 lifetime rating, which comes closer to her 80 on social issues -- slightly more liberal than Obama.

One of the interesting aspects of the Democratic field from Congress is the remarkable similarity in their scores. All of them come from the more liberal faction of their party. Their lifetime liberal scores run in a narrow range from 84.3 (Obama) to 76.8 (Joe Biden), meaning that all of the Democrats in the race come from the liberal half of the caucuses. Hillary only gets edged by Dennis Kucinich by 0.6 points, who gets beaten by Obama by almost 5 points. They do not have a moderate in the race, despite Hillary's attempts to paint herself as such.

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/009452.php

[featherman]

6. Here's another but it's really easy to Google a question like that

"Obama more Liberal than Kucinich"

http://www.majorityrules.org/blog/2007/03/senator-barack-obama-more-liberal-than.html

[LordJFT]

7. here are a few reasons

1. IWR
2. Kyl/Lieberman
3. Levin
4. outsourcing/nafta
5. DOMA
6. flag-burning
7. cap on social security taxes
8. Obama's refusal to take money from lobbyists and pacs

[Captain_Nemo]

9. On point number 8: he gets a lot of corporate money...

[FrenchieCat]

13. But Edwards is for "bundled" money......

Obama is more transparent with his-

Obama's "Bundlers"
http://www.wilshireandwashington.com/2007/11/obamas-bundlers.html

John Edwards and his bundlers of joy
http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/01/02/john-edwards-and-his-bundlers-of-joy/

[Captain_Nemo]

10. And, on Point Number 1. He has voted to fund the war. Here is a good piece from Michael Moore

http://catinbag.blogspot.com/2008/01/michael-moore-on-obamas-win.html
Barack Obama is a good and inspiring man. What a breath of fresh air! There’s no doubting his sincerity or his commitment to trying to straighten things out in this country. But who is he? I mean, other than a guy who gives a great speech? How much do any of us really know about him? I know he was against the war. How do I know that? He gave a speech before the war started. But since he joined the senate, he has voted for the funds for the war, while at the same time saying we should get out. He says he’s for the little guy, but then he votes for a corporate-backed bill to make it harder for the little guy to file a class action suit when his kid swallows lead paint from a Chinese-made toy. In fact, Obama doesn’t think Wall Street is a bad place. He wants the insurance companies to help us develop a new health care plan — the same companies who have created the mess in the first place. He’s such a feel-good kinda guy, I get the sense that, if elected, the Republicans will eat him for breakfast. He won’t even have time to make a good speech about it."

[FrenchieCat]

15. So did Edwards.....

In fact, Edwards voted for funding after he voted against the 87 million back during the primaries.
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Obama's funding history:


IRAQ: Obama Has Consistently Opposed A Blank Check for Iraq.

b]IRAQ: Obama Has Consistently Opposed A Blank Check for Iraq.


In January of 2005, Obama criticized Condoleezza Rice for not offering a timetable for withdrawal;

in February he criticized the Administration’s policy in Iraq while praising our troops;

in May and June, he called security in Iraq “horrible” and criticized the Administration for linking the 9/11 attacks and the war in Iraq;

and in October and November, he called for a phased withdrawal of our troops, saying that we should “get out as soon as we can.”

Obama called for a phased withdrawal of our troops in November of 2005 and voted for an amendment stating that the US should not “stay in Iraq indefinitely.”

He consistently called for troop withdrawal throughout 2006, and voted for a resolution in June urging the President to begin troop withdrawal during 2006.

Obama spoke out against the surge the same night Bush announced it, and introduced his bill to end the war at the end of January, which would have prohibited the surge and set a timetable for withdrawal of all combat troops by the end of March 2008.

That bill became the template for the Democratic caucus’ position.

IRAQ: Obama Has Consistently Opposed A Blank Check for Iraq.

Since Obama came to Washington in January of 2005, every single Senate Democrat has voted for every single Iraq funding bill that has come to the Senate floor until President Bush vetoed a timetable for withdrawal.

After that, Obama voted against funding for the war, stating that “This vote is a choice between validating the same failed policy in Iraq that has cost us so many lives and demanding a new one…We should not give the President a blank check to continue down this same, disastrous path. With my vote today, I am saying to the President that enough is enough. We must negotiate a better plan that funds our troops, signals to the Iraqis that it is time for them to act and that begins to bring our brave servicemen and women home safely and responsibly.”

IRAQ: Clinton Continues to Unfairly Truncate Obama’s Quote on Iraq. Below is the full excerpt from the New York Times:

“He opposed the war in Iraq, and spoke against it during a rally in Chicago in the fall of 2002. He said then that he saw no evidence that Iraq had unconventional weapons that posed a threat, or of any link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. “In a recent interview, he declined to criticize Senators Kerry and Edwards for voting to authorize the war, although he said he would not have done the same based on the information he had at the time.

“‘But, I’m not privy to Senate intelligence reports,’ Mr. Obama said. ‘What would I have done? I don’t know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.’

“But Mr. Obama said he did fault Democratic leaders for failing to ask enough tough questions of the Bush administration to force it to prove its case for war. ‘What I don’t think was appropriate was the degree to which Congress gave the president a pass on this,’ he said.”
http://thepage.time.com/obama-camp-memo-on-clintons-mtp-iraq-statements/

[LordJFT]

18. I'm so tired of people saying someone's not anti-war because he didn't want to pull out immediately

He wants a responsible tranferral of power so that there aren't more innocent people killed than there already have been.

[kurth]

2. Ask Obama about his universal health care plan

[CoffeeCat]

8. I love Obama's universal health care plan...

In fact, it's one of the reasons that I found Obama attractive as a candidate.

If you look at Obama's plan---it contains realistic and intelligent plans to cover
every American. For low-income earners, Obama actually does something to help them
attain coverage. He slashes the cost of premiums, making coverage easier to afford.

Contrast that to Hillary's horrible plan. I couldn't believe it when I read it. The
low-income earners are MANDATED to buy insurance. People who can't even put food
on the table for forced to buy insurance under the plan. If they don't, they are
FINED. Hillary claims "universal coverage", but how in the world is "mandating"
that the poor buy a product they won't be able to afford, covering everyone?

I could mandate that every American own a Prius. At the end of the day, that doesn't mean
that people will have the will or the means to buy a Prius.

Obama's plan is actually workable. It's a very good first start, and a sensible solution
to actually DO SOMETHING about helping the poor access coverage.

Thanks for asking about it, because this is an issue that needs to be discussed more
often.

Obama has a realistic, solution-oriented healthcare plan. Hillary has pie in the sky
and she's calling it a healthcare plan.

[CoffeeCat]

3. I agree...

I am behind Senator Obama, but I would also be happy
with an Edwards presidency.

This win feels very nice. Obama did well across the board, and
he has some added advantages now, going into Super Tuesday.

:)

[ErnestoG]

4. Damn straight

I dont want to hear anymore codswallop about how Obama can't win.

[alittlelark]

12. I saw your interest in Anth. from your profile

DU has an Anthropology group you should join.

[ErnestoG]

16. Thanks for the info!

n/m

[alittlelark]

11. I'll take Obama over Clinton, But EDWARDS beats every R in the race.

Edwards is the sure-shot GE win. He out-polls EVERY R in their primaries.

WHY are we so blind?

[kster]

14. Can you prove it

we all know that you can't. If Clinton would have won, can you prove it, if Edwards would have won, can you prove it.

I KNOW FOR A FACT that the media has already manipulated the 2008 election by excluding Kucinich from six debates, so pardon me if I don't share in your celebration.

[cooolandrew]

17. With a flood of donations by citizens of half a million an hour after winning SC.