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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:11 AM
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Edwards: you can still help people by endorsing Obama
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 12:12 AM by LittleBlue
I'm an Obama supporter, btw. After seeing Nevada and the way Latinos voted, I firmly believe the only shot Obama has on Super Tuesday (barring a massive surge from SC) is an Edwards endorsement.

I truly believe Edwards, in his heart, wants to help people. He still can! So he may not be the greatest politician; I really don't think that matters. Edwards could be the AG that brings about change. We saw under Ashcroft how powerful an AG can be. Edwards could shift the age-old unfairness of the justice system, whereby white-collar criminals are unprosecuted, corporations who abuse human-rights oversees aren't prosecuted, and non-violent drug addicts are thrown in jail instead of being given the help they need. Where people traveling to Cuba are harassed with fines which amount to political financial penalties. Where big corporations are allowed to monopolize markets without fear of anti-trust laws.

Mr. Edwards, you can make a difference. It may not be the path you have envisioned, but it is still a means to help people. Please see reality for what it is!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:13 AM
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1. Check one day off the list for Obama.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:13 AM
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2. We'll see what happens at the convention, but most of the Edwards supporters
are with him all the way.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:15 AM
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6. I know I am. nt
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:14 AM
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3. Whining for Obama ? What a supporter!!
Stiff upper lip Old Man - it ain't over till the Fat lady sings
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:14 AM
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4. Edwards supporters are not going to Obama.
The best thing he can do is stay in and take votes from Hillary imo as an Obama supporter. And stay in, and if it goes all the way to the convention, he give his delegates to Obama and hope to become the attorney general in an Obama administration.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:17 AM
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14. I wasn't aware he could do that.
Can he really just give all his delegates to whomever he wishes?
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:25 AM
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27. I guess so. All of the reports I read have said Edwards is hoping to be kingmaker
at the convention.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:18 AM
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16. bullshit
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 12:19 AM by frogcycle
he doesn't have to "give" his delegates to anyone. He can stonewall, and they can duke it out. He can end up with all the marbles, or it could go to Gore, or Biden, or somebody else actually qualified.

And to the OP - take your "not the greatest politician" and stick it where the sun don't shine.

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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:15 AM
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5. Even if he did, I'd still w/i Edwards
But, good luck with your passive aggressive 'panhandling'.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:15 AM
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7. Great idea...
Wonder if that would interest Edwards.

I was just talking with a friend today about all the times we thought we were heading for something that turned into something else, usually better in the end.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:15 AM
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8. I don't trust Obama as far as I can throw Obama. /nt
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:15 AM
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9. Edwards will fight to the end
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:16 AM
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10. Obama: you can still help people by endorsing Edwards.
nm
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:18 AM
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17. If their roles were reversed in terms of support, I would be behind that 100%
But reality is as it appears.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:16 AM
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11. Why would a candidate who is still in the race endorce a contender?
And you do realize that Edwards is still in the race, AND there are 45 states left to have their say, don't you?

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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:20 AM
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21. Well technically yes. Not winning a state so far as ended any realistic
dream of him winning the nomination. SC and Iowa were his best chances and he underperformed. Great guy, I just don't think he will win.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:23 AM
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25. Do you realize how many delegates are left to be claimed?
Here's the thing. IF Edwards pulls out, I'm going to take a long, slow look at each of the candidate's platforms. Then I'll decide who to support. The nagging of assholes at DU will have no effect on my choice.

The only thing that this continuous nagging does is turn me off to your candidate.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:16 AM
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12. Edwards has said repeatedly that he will not drop out before the convention.
And this begging from Obama people has been answered many times tonight.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:16 AM
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13. I like Obama pretty well but I'm sticking with Edwards.
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 12:17 AM by ocelot
If Edwards drops out and throws his support to Obama, that's different; but it's not likely to happen. I'm in a Super Tuesday state and Edwards will get my vote. He's the only one who's really been addressing issues of social and economic justice. Obama has to start listening to what Edwards is saying if he wants Edwards' supporters' votes.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:18 AM
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15. ONE OF US, ONE OF US
;)
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:18 AM
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18. Never! There would be no difference if he endorsed Hillary! Or Obama!
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 12:19 AM by saracat
There is not a plug nickles worth of difference between the two. John is the only one who speaks for us.this is not about John or a corporate media manufactured celebrity candidate fulfilling their petty personal ambitions.This is about our nation and about "us". John will never play ball with either candidate.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:19 AM
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19. I've been with Edwards from the beginning.....
... though if truth be told, I'm more of a Kucinich liberal. However, right now I'm SO into Edwards' message that it's all I care about. For the first time in how long? Since the 1940s maybe? For the first time SOMEBODY is telling the truth about what is going on in this country, the Two Americas, the unfairness, the inequality, the rich hiding behind corporations, our money ending up in their pockets, the dwindling of the middle class, etc. etc. The message. That's what Edwards is about, and he's telling it, and I want it to continue. Evidently something is going on with THE MESSAGE. People have begun to listen, and from coast to coast, this man is taking THE MESSAGE. And for the first time, people who would never otherwise have heard THE TRUTH, are hearing it. And that, I think, is of vital importance, that people know these things, so they don't vote for Repukes again.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:19 AM
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20. And you can still blow it out yer ass.
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LittleBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:27 AM
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28. Why vulgar? I'd hope my candidate did the same for yours if our roles were reversed
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 12:31 AM by LittleBlue
We get Hillary, we get a corporate shill as AG. That's the fact, assuming McCain doesn't win and we actually get a corporate lawyer as AG.
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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:51 AM
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32. Obama is also a corporate shill, what's the difference? n/t
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jannyk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:20 AM
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22. No! Thanks all the same but NO! nt
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:20 AM
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23. Sorry, OPer, but my reality is Edwards.
Now and forever.
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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:46 AM
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34. no no no don't you see
you owe Obama your support, just beause Obama and his supporters say so.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:22 AM
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24. see related post:
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:23 AM
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26. I'm an Edwards supporter all the way.
I am so sick of the pretense that only Hillary and Obama are running that I could scream.

And I'll tell you this: neither Hillary nor Obama is electable in the end. That's the unpleasant truth. If either one is the nominee, or worse yet, they share the ticket, the Republican will win. And we'll never get out of the mess we're in.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:39 AM
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29. Well....
I firmly believe the only shot Obama has on Super Tuesday (barring a massive surge from SC) is an Edwards endorsement.

Why don't all you Obama people throw your support to John Edwards?

You know, we don't need great politicians, we need great PEOPLE. People with heart, empathy for those less fortunate, compassion. One of the best reasons I can think of to vote FOR John Edwards is he isn't as much of a politician as the other two.

Seriously, what does Obama have? He's a good speaker, so what? He's a bit younger than John. So what? He wants to reach across the aisle....that's great until he pulls a nub back.

I'll be willing to go on record saying that if you guys do get Obama as president there is going to be a lot of buyer's remorse in a year or two.

Kumbaya, indeed.






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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:40 AM
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30. How DARE you?
This is one of the most arrogant, condescending posts I've seen, and that says a lot.

Who are you to tell John Edwards how to "make a difference"? I'd wager quite a bit that you haven't accomplished a tenth of what he has.

Oh, by the way, this also isn't a way to win people to your side. I'm glad I don't base my voting decision on some candidates' supporters, particularly Obama's.

And you know what? This race has a long way to go. A lot can happen. There may come a day when you're in despair because your candidate lost the whole thing. And you know what? On that day, I'll LAUGH at you. Not at the majority of supporters, just YOU. I hope you cry your eyes out.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:42 AM
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31. Could you be a little more patronizing and tactless?
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 12:44 AM by ashling
I truly believe Edwards, in his heart, wants to help people. He still can! So he may not be the greatest politician; I really don't think that matters.

Please see reality for what it is!


The reality is that Obama is going to be eaten up by the M$M and Republicans if he doesn't appropriate a little more fight and a little less Kumbayah. We don't need what has been termed "Pelosi Politics." We need someone in the White House who will fight for us.

So he may not be the greatest politician? Get real ... maybe Obama should see reality for what it is.

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comradebillyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:49 AM
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35. patronizing and tactless appears to be the
standard behavior of Obama supporters here at DU
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:28 AM
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37. It would seem like they would have become
sensetive to the overbearing and patronizing attitude of Hillary campaigners who act as if Obama was being impertinent to stand in her way.
:puke:
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efilon Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:56 AM
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33. I will plug my nose and vote
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 12:58 AM by efilon
for the Dem nominee.

"I truly believe Edwards, in his heart, wants to help people." Yes, he does, and he can best do it as President!!!

I'm sorry but Obama has never impressed or inspired me. There's just some thing about him that bothers me. I think that it might be that he seems smarmy to me. He does give a good speech, but then, so do the other candidates. My sister and niece were at a rally sponsored by one of the unions here in eastern Iowa. Obama got heckled within a very short time of starting his speech and never could get back on track.
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Nutmegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 03:55 AM
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36. John Edward will never relent!
Neither will I, because he's the candidate who speaks directly to me.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:32 AM
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38. I don't think an Edwards endorsement may necessarily be that effective
Edited on Sun Jan-27-08 04:33 AM by fujiyama
Maybe in certain caucus states, he could urge his supporters to give Obama second choice voting where not viable.

But otherwise, it might be argued that Edwards is peeling off a lot of white voters not completely ready in "risking" the election in nominating a black person. This may not be hurting Obama all that much after all.

And regardless, Edwards is running to get his own message across. And I think it's important so I don't fault him in not quiting.
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 04:42 AM
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39. Edwards is helping Obama by staying in the race
Hillary is getting the beer drinkers, Obama the wine drinkers. Edwards seems to be a beer drinkers candidate.

Besides, his staying in the race enables the biased news media to keep pretending that he takes more from Obama then from Clinton.

Steve
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