Sore Loser Hillary refuses to give concession speech. A new low.

[Unsane]

Obama didn't give one post-NV, but that was mainly because he WON. lol

[cboy4]

1. She's about to speak insane

:eyes:

[godai]

7. "I wanna thank the band. Were they great?" n/t

[HughMoran]

Bill's giving the concession! ooops, wrong. Hillary's not giving a concession! oops, wrong

Obama supporters are fucking ignorant ass holes tonight!

[Catherine Vincent]

23. That's nothing new. nt

[stillcool]

45. Did you see Bill?

Did you see Hillary? Who is ignorant?

[HughMoran]

49. Yes, I saw them both

So?

[stillcool]

52. Who gave the concession speech?

[HughMoran]

54. Hillary

So?

[Ken Burch]

85. Maybe...but those "fucking ignorant ass holes" WHUPPED YOU BIG TIME tonight in S.C.

How bad would they have won if they were educated and nice?

[HughMoran]

90. Classy

I've said on many posts that I would be happy with either candidate, I just can't understand the hate and piling on of Obama only supporters. Are you the latter?

[Ken Burch]

95. No. But I just always have a problem with candidates doing the "it doesn't count when I lose" meme.

If HRC's people had fought a high-minded campaign in S.C., and were accepting that this really was a legitimate big win for their main opponent, they wouldn't be getting that kind of response.

HRC should have just started her speech with something like "I heartily congratulate Senator Obama on his decisive win tonight. He fought a good campaign and won fair and square". Instead, slipped in a half-hearted concession at the end and she tried to act like S.C. didn't count. That kind of tactics should be left to the other party.

Frankly, I'm not thrilled with either them. But then, the progressive candidates got forced out of the race by the media, so I haven't really got anybody I can throw in with right now.

Finally, when you use a term like "fucking ignorant assholes" to refer to people who simply happen to disagree with you, you aren't in a position to make sarcastic comments about what is and isn't "classy".

[HughMoran]

98. I didn't think you were one of them

I don't give a crap about how Hillary conceded, arguments can be made against all of the top 3 in the 4 primaries held to date.

If this post was the only one where there was piling on, then I might see your point, but this post is just indicative of the many posts that showed a "poor winner" attitude in spades. Perhaps you didn't see them all.

[otohara]

2. turn on the tee vee

[Bright Eyes]

3. I think she is right now.....

[MADem]

4. Turn on your tee vee there, Rocket Scientist. She is speaking NOW. NT

[Occam Bandage]

17. Giving her stump in TN.

[Unsane]

18. Really? That was a concession speech?

[MADem]

41. She ain't done yet. NT

[Freida5]

5. she is speaking now and without a teleprompter.

[MonkeyFunk]

6. She's doing it now

god, you people suck.

No lie is too big. No smear to grand.

[Ken Burch]

87. In Tennessee, not S.C. and she's acting like her massive asswhupping DIDN'T happen.

Might as well face it, Funkster, only the Beltway wants HRC.

[journalist3072]

8. Who is the ass that recommened this thread?

[HughMoran]

16. I think we should give it 100 recs personally

It shows something about certain people's sense of fairness and hypocrisy.

[robbedvoter]

22. The sore winners.

[MADem]

46. ,,,,

:rofl:

What to do with The Wet Hen Society?

What will it take to make them happy?

I agree, they're being pretty shitty, some of them--not all, certainly, but more than a few. You'd think they'd be celebrating, not carping like mean little shits at the one they beat two to one, and then some.

[HughMoran]

53. I can't comprehend the bile

What is so stuck in the craw of these folks that they can't stop spewing massive amounts of hatred?

[MADem]

70. I dunno, honestly

I thought the Wimmen-Hater's Club went out of fashion with Our Gang...

Seriously, I do think it is anger at her husband for "leaving" them. And some blame him for Bush getting in, because of his indiscretion. They don't blame Gore, they blame Clinton.

So, what's the logical (cough, choke--I am being sarcastic) thing to do? Take it out on his WIFE!

The GOP ran for quite a while on that "pure meanness" shit. Remember the vitriol from NEWT? It's some ugly business, that.

It ends up consuming them, though. It takes way more energy to hate than to cheer. And the former makes you feel like shit, while the latter lifts you up.

[HughMoran]

71. That would imply that a lot of Obama support here is actually Hillary hate

Hmmm, that would explain an awful lot. I always knew this was a factor, but the spewing of hatred during a huge victory by the victors is almost unheard of. This burning hatred is supposed to be a good motivator I guess huh? I hate Bush, but I've never hated a Democrat other than Lieberman and a few turncoats of his ilk. I hope we can make up after the primary - I like Obama but his most ardent supporters are beyond the pale IMHO.

[MADem]

74. I thought some of those supporters were kinda interesting.

The angry ones are unreasonably angry. Some of them are determined to DIVIDE. EAGER to, too. It's like they live to be pissed off, outraged, hurt, victimized, and they continually hector and scold people who don't share their views.

A lot of them are brand-spanking new. Some of them seem like they're old hands here, even though they have only joined recently. The real mean ones are people I don't recognize. I don't know what to make of that.

I refuse to worry about them too much. It's a waste of energy. Let 'em stew in their anger, I suppose.

[HughMoran]

77. Let's just say that I'll be screaming "praise god" when the level 2 is turned off

The place is almost tolerable normally - having to see all of the most hateful idiots suddenly appear in a time of crisis is almost unbearable. I really hate when the ignore list is turned off :(

[MADem]

79. I only have one person on ignore.

A batshit crazy nutjob who chased me around the board. Still here, apparently, because I occasionally see the IGNORED popping up.

[HughMoran]

86. I was able to be good and not use it until this past month

At one point I just remembered something Skinner said about using the ignore function versus getting into spats with idiots. I decided at some point that some people are strictly trolls sent here to cause trouble. I ain't playing with them any more.

[rodeodance]

97. i really think it more a Hate -Hill cult -more than a support Obama club.

[Marie26]

93. Kinda like their candidate.

*ducks flames*

[Unsane]

9. That was about the weakest concession speech ever.

[cloud75]

10. she congratulated obama.

[Tactical Progressive]

84. Yes, but did she worship him?

[Evergreen Emerald]

11. double standard

you guys will attack Clinton for anything.

[ccpup]

12. "sore loser" Obama didn't concede NV

Neither one are sore losers.

Now stop eating that paste. It's supposed to go ON your paper-mache kitty-cat, not in your mouth :evilgrin:

[tammywammy]

13. He won more delegates, what was there to conceed?

[MonkeyFunk]

14. the vote

[tammywammy]

81. You're right

He should have said something. I said that at the time. I find all this talk about concession speeches silly really, this he did/she did.

[ccpup]

15. the popular vote?

:shrug:

[Bread and Circus]

58. In the end what matters most, the popular vote or the delegates?

:shrug:

[tammywammy]

82. You're right see post 81

[krabigirl]

76. "conceed"?

[tammywammy]

80. Sorry, I type fast and don't always use spell check

Did you have something to say on the basis of my post or just my one spelling mistake?

[robbedvoter]

19. She just congratulated Obama for his victory.

[awaysidetraveler]

When did she do that? Where are you watching this?

[Occam Bandage]

20. He still should have conceded NV, but that's politics.

He wanted to preserve the illusion of a victory given the delegates; she didn't want anyone to think about SC a moment longer than necessary.

[awaysidetraveler]

21. Wow, is she really never going to concede South Carolina? That's so pathetic... so low...

so undignified. It's so unpresidential. That's the thing about Hillary, she's all about denial.
And she just doesn't get it.

[robbedvoter]

25. Helooo! She just did.

[awaysidetraveler]

28. We're probably watching a different stream. What are you watching?

[robbedvoter]

32. TV. MSNBC

[HughMoran]

26. lol

:rofl:

[MethuenProgressive]

24. She's on TV now - sore winner BS thread of the night

pfft

[Occam Bandage]

27. Giving her stump speech in TN.

[robbedvoter]

29. She congratulated Obama . Who didn't in NH, Nevada.

[Occam Bandage]

31. That is true. I'm just kind of surprised, given how graceful her IA speech was.

[robbedvoter]

40. What do you want? To say uncle? Ashes on her head? Blood? Pund of flesh?

Geez! I treied earlier to congratulate you guys and got attacked for saying "Florida is next"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4216621&mesg_id=4216621

[Occam Bandage]

43. Pound of flesh.

[Ken Burch]

91. Well, if you hadn't noticed, Florida is kind of a touchy subject in this party right now

What with them screwing up the primary process in a pathetic bid for attention, when they were getting enough attention to start with.

[awaysidetraveler]

37. Uh, he won more delegates and she won the popular vote.

[HughMoran]

30. It's good this is on the Greatest Page

It shows something interesting.

[Occam Bandage]

33. The Greatest Page is a joke.

[HughMoran]

36. It has become such

...this just adds to it's lack of appeal.

[emilyg]

34. 6 a-holes recommended this trash.

[zulchzulu]

38. Not sure why this is rec'd either

:shrug:

[HughMoran]

42. It was rec'd to show how stupid it is

Get more views of the uninformed idiots who've been spouting bullshit all night.

[rodeodance]

99. yes, that is why I gave it a rec.

[zulchzulu]

35. She conceded...in Nashville, Tennessee

She fit in a sentence.

[xultar]

39. Where did Obama concede Nevada? Just curious.

[awaysidetraveler]

47. Obama conceded the Nevada electoral vote, and pointed out that he won the delegate vote.

[MonkeyFunk]

56. In a speech?

No, he didn't.

I can't believe the fucking insanity here tonight.

[stillcool]

48. Maybe this will help?

UPDATE 7:12 p.m.: AP and NBC have now changed their delegate counts to 13 for Obama and 12 for Clinton.

***********

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) won today's raw vote in Nevada but senior aides to Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.) believe they have narrowly won the fight for delegates in the Silver State.

In a just completed conference call with Obama campaign manager David Plouffe and director of delegate selection Jeff Berman argued that the Illinois Senator will leave Nevada today with 13 pledged delegates to 12 for Clinton thanks the weighting of northern and rural areas in the state.

An Associated Press official on the call suggested that Obama's campaign may well be right and the organization was looking seriously at its own math.

While the process of delegate apportionment is extremely complicated, it boils down to this: in the places that Clinton won, there were an even number of delegates that were split between she and Obama. In the places Obama won, there were an odd number of delegates, meaning that he often took two delegates to one for Clinton.

"On one very important measure, we had a slight lead," said Plouffe. "Just as important as the number is why that is: we showed real strength statewide."

Plouffe demurred when asked whether if Obama turned out to have won the delegate count, he should be declared the victor in Nevada.

For her part, Clinton sought to downplay the dispute over delegates.

"This is about delegates but it's also about what people are voting for and who they think the best president would be," Clinton said in Las Vegas. "Find it somewhat strange that there is such a reaction when this was a very effective campaign to reach as many people as possible and we did and I am very proud of that."
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2008/01/clinton_won_or_did_she.html

[xultar]

50. He did deliver a concession speech...though he got more delegates. Feel better...

need a bankie and a nap-e-poo?

[stillcool]

55. Egads...

:puke:

[TankLV]

73. never did - the obamabots always scream "LOOK OVER THERE" when their bullshit is showing...

[awaysidetraveler]

44. Are you listening to her speech on cronyism? I guess that's different than nepotism, hunh?

[MzShellG]

51. She hit that low already in Iowa....

Can only sink lower.

[rodeodance]

57. I read it was to be a 9:30. just saying

[rodeodance]

59. Your candidate won. Why are you writing such nasting threads?

[rodeodance]

60. She is streaming on cspan2

[HughMoran]

61. Some people seem to have some built-up agression

It's sure spilling out tonight. It's been duly noted. There will be a point when the nominee will be decided and we will have to unify behind that person - I wonder if these people realize that?

[rodeodance]

64. I really do not know---there is such ugliness in responses to so many posts

[HughMoran]

67. It's beyond ugly...

It's a deep-down bitterness that has spilled out in one of the worst "poor winner" displays that I think I have ever witnessed here.

[rodeodance]

62. She looks good. Good for her--she is plowing on.

[robbedvoter]

63. Scarborough just apologized for lying about no concession. Will you?

[HughMoran]

65. We'll see

There is still time...

[rodeodance]

66. well, good to hear that. People seem so ready to jump to conclusions.

[robbedvoter]

68. I guess it's all the happiness of the victory, making them generous

[rodeodance]

69. COME TO THIS THREAD:

Forum Name General Discussion: Primaries
Topic subject Scarborough apologized for saying Hillary didn't concede. (she did)
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4222639#4222639
4222639, Scarborough apologized for saying Hillary didn't concede. (she did)
Posted by robbedvoter on Sat Jan-26-08 09:26 PM

Will anyone here do the same?

[TankLV]

72. I'd expect as much from you - more LIES...

shamefull...

[krabigirl]

75. Are you kidding me?

[robbedvoter]

83. She conceded. MSNBC tried to pull a fast one - apologized. DU still going with it

So was NBC Nightly News for that matter.

[PondoNavyNuke]

94. go figure

[likesmountains 52]

78. I'm not a Hillary fan..but almost 500 posts in 9 days? Makes me wonder about Unsane...

[robbedvoter]

88. They tombstoned Barackbucks - but there are more

In 2004 they pretended to be Deanies. Then they came out laughing at the suckers who chimed in.

[likesmountains 52]

92. I have about 8 or 9 on my "buddies" list now...just so I can check back and see the tombstone...

[Doctor_J]

89. Another aledged "Dem" parroting the MSM

Stupid is as stupid does.

[Muttocracy]

96. C-Span cycling through speeches - back to HRC now n/t

[HughMoran]

100. kick

apparently the news hasn't spread yet - doh!

[Captain_Nemo]

101. Didn't Obama leave NEvada without speaking? I believe he did.

[HughMoran]

102. yep

...and Hillary did give a concession speech last night