Obama got 80% of the black vote and lost 75% of the white vote

[Herman Munster]

Those are the facts.

[AndyA]

1. And some think he is going to win in the Southern states.

I just don't see it happening.

[saracat]

Exactly.

[Prefer]

14. greater revolutions have been accomplished

so there is a chance i believe (and hope)

yes we can

[yourout]

18. Hillary would fare no better in the south.....probably worse.

[Hawaii Hiker]

58. I don't think ANY Democrat will do well in the South, it's more important

to try to win Iowa, New Mexico, Colorado, Ohio....

Any Democratic nominee should be able to win the Kerry states from 2004...

[Colobo]

2. Obama whooped Hillary's ass. Those are the facts.

[Evergreen Emerald]

11. sure...by shouting "racism" from the rooftops. We all knew he soldified the black voting block of

SC. Racism works

[rberger909]

53. What?

I really don't follow your logic...the Clinton's turn this into a race issue, Obama defends himself in the South where those kind of tactics should work, the Whites even reject the race baiting and all of this is Obama's fault? That logic is downright Bush-like!

[1corona4u]

37. One of the reasons I hate Obama....

is because of the post that you just made. When I pointed out the 22 pt. spread between him and Hillary in Florida, I was told that it wasn't that big. Hypocrites.

[rberger909]

54. Hmmm...

Yeah well funny thing about Florida, *SOME* candidates follow the rules set by the Democratic Party and won't campaign there. *Other* candidates on the other hand care more about their own political aspirations then the rules of the party. So with that in mind, yeah 22% isn't a whole hell of a lot.

[stray cat]

3. a good chunk of the white vote went to Edwards

and Obama did as well with white males as a white woman ie Hillary

[stravu9]

4. and s. carolina went blue in the general election last in 1976 if I recall my History ?

Am I right?

[Nitrogenica]

5. What's your point?

[glowing]

6. And that's not good.. that is not united.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

He also won lily-white Iowa, genius.

:eyes:

[EFerrari]

10. I can't believe what I'm reading any more. n/t

[karlrschneider]

23. Caucuses not secret ballots.

Big difference.

[PurityOfEssence]

52. That is EXACTLY the point.

People often aren't what they'd like to be presumed...

[VotesForWomen]

33. iowans are not s.carolinians or californians or oklahomans, etc. nt

[Starbucks Anarchist]

45. But they are mostly white.

And the OP was discussing race.

[zulchzulu]

48. They were tan Iowans

:rofl:

[tekisui]

7. You think those whites won't vote for the dem in Nov. when it's Obama?

[SammyWinstonJack]

12. I won't.

[angie_love]

51. i thought republicans had all the racists but blue state native proved me wrong

wow racist much?

[rberger909]

55. Well...

You shouldn't! If you are voting for candidates based on their skin color then you shouldn't vote, let the grown ups do it.

[emilyg]

31. A good percentage won't.

[Occam Bandage]

8. Hillary got her ass kicked. Those are the facts.

[Debi]

Whereas Clinton won 36% of the white vote and lost 81% of the Black vote

Correct?

[Bicoastal]

9. Black people vote for THESE people, and White people vote for THOSE people.

Way to cheapen a great moment.

[karlrschneider]

24. Facts do not cheapen anything. They do piss off the pie-in-the-skyers though.

...

[GalleryGod]

40. Speaks volumes, doesn't it?

See you soon, Bicoastal!

[jefferson_dem]

13. And as much of the white male vote as did Hillary.

...deal.

[Unsane]

15. Hillary lost 64% of the white vote!!

idiot

[MoonRiver]

16. I think that is very telling in terms of the general.

That said, congratulations Obama for you South Carolina win.

[ProSense]

17. Clinton lost 64% of the white vote and 81% of the black vote or

Clinton lost!

Those are the facts

[GoldieAZ49]

27. Thats right!

and that is almost as sweet as

OBAMAS Victory!!!

[GalleryGod]

39. Not to worry...just good ole Hermie, still at it!

Got to admire his declarative, Herman "I Am the Truth" Munster, posts.

[gaiilonfong]

19. And Bill and Hillary Clinton LOST S.C.

and they will not be back in the WH as co-presidentss, because the people don't want CROOKS back in the WH.

[bilgewaterbill]

20. 2/3 of voters in 2 states have now said no to Hillary. That's sad.

[yourout]

21. It's better to find out know rather than having President McCain or Huckaby.

[karlrschneider]

22. Extrapolating that to national levels is a safe bet.

Guaranteed.

[Tweed]

36. And in Iowa.... Nevada.... New Hampshire....

Where Clinton:

lost by 9%, won by 6%, won by 3%?

[awaysidetraveler]

25. I can't find these statistics, and I find them doubtful to say the least.

MSNBC reported those statistics based on very, very early exit polls.

[spooky3]

30. here they are - see the Vote by Race and Age table

(exit poll results)

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#SCDEM

[Proud2BAmurkin]

26. samo samo

[Kahuna]

28. Hillary lost 80% of the black vote and more than 60% of the white vote..

What's your point? :shrug:

[Maximus Invictus]

29. OJ RONALD REAGAN SIMPSON

:sarcasm:

Got love this country!

From Europe with love...

[Wednesdays]

32. And if black people didn't vote, * would have won by a landslide

...so says Rush Limbaugh.

:shrug:

[Tweed]

34. Hillary got 27% of the vote.... and women were 61% of the total vote

Those are the facts.

[ecstatic]

35. Fuzzy math. That would mean he had 100% of the white vote

at one point. Good try though.

[spooky3]

41. The OP is correct. See my post above w/ link to the CNN exit poll #s.

Blacks were 54% of the voters. You just have to add a few numbers to obtain the same results the OP did (and if you assume that non-blacks were whites (a small % of voters in SC are Latino or other, some of which could be either black or white).

The non-black votes that Obama did NOT win were split between Clinton and Edwards.

Clinton got more votes than Edwards because she did better with blacks than did Edwards.

[gmudem]

38. Misleading numbers

For whites it was:
Edwards 39%
Clinton 36%
Obama 25%

He also beat Clinton in the women vote. So yes they are facts, just the facts as you spun them.

[Bright Eyes]

42. So we should give into racism?

Is that what you're saying?

[milkyway]

43. And Bill Clinton's wife only got 29% of the white male vote. Obama had 27% and Edwards 44%.

actually, the category is non-black male, which I assume is mostly white.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#SCDEM

[Proud2BAmurkin]

44. Obama lost 73% of the white male vote

[Occam Bandage]

47. Clinton lost 71% of that same demographic.

[EffieBlack]

46. Clinton got 20% of the black vote and lost 73% of the black vote; Edwards got 33% of the white vote

and lost 99% of the black vote.

This is fun.

Your turn.

[Tulkas]

49. Clinton Lost 65% of white vote. Obama Lost 75% of white vote, In a southern state

what's your point?



Oh, I see...... That black people's opinions don't count as much as white peoples?


Maybe you should go try that OTHER party, some of them are still stuck in the 1870s the way you are

[EffieBlack]

50. Hunh?

[dionysus]

56. that's a fucking low thing to say troll...

troll on colostomy bag..

[krkaufman]

57. That is the spin. With a racial twist.

Let's compare...

Clinton lost 81% of the black vote, and 63% of the "white" (non-black) vote.
Edwards lost 97% of the black vote, and 61% of the "white" (non-black) vote.

Pretty marginal differences except in regards to Edwards inability to attract black voters, and black support for Obama.

Though one exit poll stat really sticks out...

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#SCDEM

Looks like Obama received more votes from "white" (non-black) voters than both Edwards and Clinton COMBINED for the 18-29 age group. Ok, so Obama's numbers go down as the age of the "non-black" voters goes up, but we're talking about the South -- and his numbers aren't all that far behind Clinton and Edwards in the demographic.

edit: p.s. Obama's heavy black support might help account for the severity of the ass-kicking he handed his competitors, but not for his victory. He more than doubled Clinton's vote count, and that's due to a broad coalition of voters.