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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:30 PM
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Make no mistake..it's the Obama camp and their supporters who made this campaign about race
Let us be clear here....

It is the Obama camp and their minions who have made this a campaign about race.

Let us examine the facts:

- There was Michelle Obama with her infamous "Black America will wake up and get it" comment.

- And let us not forget Michelle Obama's comments when speaking at an HBCU in South Carolina, when she said: "Imagine our family on that inaugural platform. America will look at itself differently. The world will look at America differently. There is no other candidate who is going to do that for our country. You know that."

- There was Barack Obama with his telling Tavis Smiley "There's no doubt that if we consolidate the Black vote, that would have a profound shift in the national polls."

- There is Tom Joyner, who unapologetically has let it be known he's supporting the Black candidate. When Tom Joyner had African-American Rep. Kendrid Meek of Florida (a supporter of Sen. Clinton's) on his radio show, the very first question Tom asked Rep. Meek was "There's a perfectly qualified Black man running for President. Why aren't you supporting Sen. Obama?" He pulled the exact same thing with Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, who he had on his show just before the Michigan primary. Kilpatrick said he was undecided. He said he wasn't going to get caught up in the emotion...that Detroit has too many issues, and he wants to see where the canidates stand on them first. Tom said "You're not supporting the Black man?"

The race baiting by the Obama campaign and their supporters, and their desire for me as an African-American, to simply engage in group think and blindly get behind the Black candidate, is a major reason why I am not supporting him.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:31 PM
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1. Bitter much? nt
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:35 PM
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11. No....just concerened for my community. We have too many issues we are facing
- There's the huge disparity between the African-American unemployment rate, and the overall national unemployment rate.

- There are racial disparities in health care

- There's the growing gap between rich and poor

- There's the poverty rate

- Disparities in incarceration

- Racial profiling

- Jena

The point is that this is no time to engage in group think. We have issues to discuss, and we are not discussing them.

Someone actually called into the Tom Joyner show the other day and said that Barack Obama was simply trying to become the first Black President, and we need to vote for him first, and then see what his plans are for Black America. I'm like, huh? Vote first, then see what his plans are?

Then, when Tavis Smiley simply reminded us that after falling in love with Obama, we need to remember to hold him accountable, people angrily emailed Tavis, and called into the Tom Joyner show. They were so angry with him for simply reminding us to hold Obama accountable, after falling in love with him. It was ugly. And I thought: since when did it become a bad thing to hold elected leaders, even our Black ones, accountable?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:41 PM
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24. Then stop supporting Hillary. She was willing to do what it took to make Obama the "black candidate"
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:47 PM
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31. Wrong...Obama made himself the Black candidate with all his talk of
"consolidating" the Black vote....and Michelle marginalized her husband with "Black America will wake up and get it" and "imagine our family on the inaugural platform..America will look at itself differently."

The Obama camp marignalized itself. No one had to do it for them.

STFU.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:53 PM
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33. He didn't "make" himself the black candidate,
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 09:54 PM by Blue_Roses
he IS the black candidate and frankly all the hoo-ha over it is very tiring. He's an awesome candidate who deserves to win. Period. To continue to bring it up is showing sour grapes.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:15 PM
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37. Thank you for the truth.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:31 PM
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2. when Hillary appeals to women is she sexist and insulting to women....
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:37 PM
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16. has she said, "if we could consolidate the female vote, it would
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 09:39 PM by spooky3
change everything?", which is the parallel to the B. Obama statement quoted in the OP?

Have any interviewers or Bill Clinton said anything parallel to the interviewer or M. Obama comments quoted in the OP?

In fact, if women voted in the same % as men (which they might) and if all women voted for her, which they clearly will not, she WOULD win, since they are a far greater proportion of the population (>51%) than are blacks (<13%). So she would have a more rational basis for making such a statement. But as far as I know she hasn't said anything like this at all.

If and when parallel statements are made to those cited, people can evaluate them at that time.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:31 PM
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3. wow.
reeeeeach!
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StevieM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:32 PM
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4. Yep, and the media went right along with it. They are so biased it's sickening (eom)
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:32 PM
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5. that is exactly right.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:33 PM
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6. You need to make some WHINE with those SOUR GRAPES...
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:34 PM
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7. I remember when I said black folk will vote for a black candidate...white folk told me
no they will vote on the issues.

But now, they are all happy to have 'us' black folk voting in a block because it serves their chosen candidate.

i just find this turn around for just 4 years ago to be AMAZING.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:40 PM
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22. So it's okay for you to say "White folk told me..." blah, blah, blah.
That's bullshit.

You do the same thing you accuse everyone of doing.

Don't think for a minute that all white people say the same thing.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:06 PM
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34. nope, you can say it too. There have been white posts about black folk all goddamned night.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:34 PM
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8. How pathetic. You didn't fool SC with that bullshit, and you aren't fooling us.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:35 PM
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10. Someone is fooling you.
:shrug:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:37 PM
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15. Sorry for your loss.
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 09:37 PM by Occam Bandage
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:38 PM
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17. No you are not and do not patronize me!
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:42 PM
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26. Sorry for your loss.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:43 PM
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30. Go away!
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:14 PM
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36. *snort*
:rofl:

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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:34 PM
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9. Absolutely no doubt about it
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 09:39 PM by Tactical Progressive
But just listen to the cable 'news' Clinton-haters and you'd think it was Bill and Hillary being racist if they so much as put a black pair of shoes on.

And props to you as an African-American to actually notice it. It has to be very hard to do so from inside the community. Personally, as a Hillary supporter, I was hoping that Barack would win South Carolina and don't fault in the least blacks voting for Obama because of race. I think it is wholly appropriate. I am just appalled at what the Obama camp did to try to ensure it. He put a rift in this party and in the country at large for his own self.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:36 PM
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12. Obama made this campaign about race...
...simply by being black. And running for a job no non-Caucasian has ever come close to holding.

What an awful blunder on his part.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:36 PM
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13. Obama was very successfully Swiftboating Clinton on Race - but what's his next trick?
Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 09:37 PM by MethuenProgressive
How will this act play in 20 states at once?
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:37 PM
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14. Exactly!!!!! eom
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:38 PM
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18. And the media
which did everything to play up the issue and create the impression that Obama was the victim of race-baiting.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:39 PM
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19. You saying that does not make it true.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:41 PM
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25. I didn't say anything. I let the race-baiting words of Barack and Michelle, and Tom Joyner, speak
for themselves.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:39 PM
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20. The numbers do not support
your premise.

I am a 59 year old white woman. I think Obama is more than just a cool black guy.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 10:13 PM
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35. I am a white woman - I disagree with you.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:40 PM
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21. Obama had ZERO reason to inject race. It only hurts him. Clinton had EVERY reason to do so.
Please stop lying to yourself.

Oh, and stop saying he only won SC cause black voters voted for the black candidate. Exit polls prove you WRONG.

You are a Hillary partisan who is blind to the crap she's flinging. She needs Obama to be marginalized by labeling him the black candidate.

And sadly, there are a few other black DU'ers in the same boat as yourself.

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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:42 PM
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27. Sen. Clinton didn't marginalize Obama. He marginalized himself.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:42 PM
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28. That is the exact opposite of the truth--look at the results of Obama's shot
he knew that he was losing momentum. He made a conscious choice to make it about race going into SC--and he is the ONLY one who could benefit from it. How would Clinton benefit from race baiting? They would not, and they are not politically stupid.

Obama laid in wait for an opportunity to use race. And it came when Clinton said his war stance was a fairy tale. And the surrogates jumped on it.

And the media jumped on it. And the lemmings followed.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:40 PM
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23. The politics of hope no one catches on to your race-baiting
You're absolutely right. It’s sickening.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:43 PM
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29. Obama's Black?!
who knew?
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-26-08 09:49 PM
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32. Damn straight. Obama made the campaign about race
by having the unmitigated gall to be black! Damn him and his shameless opportunism!
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