How will DK do in Ohio?

[Vas Liz]

Consdidering he is from this state, how well do you expect him to do? Candidates generally do really well in their home state right?

[Droopy]

1. I punched the ballot for DK in Ohio today

Mom and dad went for Edwards.

The polling place where we vote was damn near empty at 9am. When I drove by it later in the day it was still like that. Hardly anybody in the parking lot. I hope turn-out is better elsewhere.

[asthmaticeog]

2. Less than 15%, I'm guessing.

The Home State Bounce doesn't work if you're a relatively obscure congressman from an uncharacteristically Democratic corner of a geographically and populationally HUGE conservative-leaning state.

Now were he the popular governor of a small state, he could get far better percentages with a roughly similar number of votes.

For the record, I'm an Ohioan who voted for DK today.

[revcarol]

3. There have been some blatant "misrepresentations" going around that

might hurt him. Ohio has lost 240,000 manufacturing jobs, many of them from NAFTA and eventually the WTO. (The jobs went to Mexico first, then to other places, mainly China.)Edwards going around saying he would not have voted for NAFTA left the impression that the WTO was irrelevant, when it could slap down any revised treaty to retain investor profits. So people who don't know the facts may be deceived.

The AFL/CIO endorsement of Kerry left the impression that Kerry would be good for labor. But Dennis is the candidate who has been for labor all these years. He has been walking the walk, Kerry started to talk the talk two weeks ago.

And the REPUBLICAN newspapers all endorsed either Edwards or Kerry. (Ya think they might want to influence who is our candidate?)

[asthmaticeog]

5. Republican papers?

Hell, the usually strongly liberal alt-weekly Cleveland Free Times not only endorsed Kerry, but two of their editorial writers have been attacking Kucinich lately. They even did a cover story on him that turned out to be a thinly-veiled "lets poke fun at his kooky supporters" piece. Very disappointing - especially because they have a large circulation in the strongly Democratic Cuyahoga County.

[revcarol]

7. The Cleveland Plain Dealer, and papers like that

that wouldn't know the truth about a Democrat if it hit them in the face.

[asthmaticeog]

9. You ain't kiddin'

I don't even bother with the piece-of-shit PD anymore, just the Free Times for my local news and NYT and BBC online (and of course discussion boards!) for national/international stuff.

Bit of trivia: did you know that Doug Clifton, the Editor of the Plain Dealer, was the reporter who spied on Gary Hart back in the '80s? He personally helped usher in the era of the politics of personal destruction. His paper could burn to the ground and I wouldn't care -- so long as my friends who work there were out sick that day! It was a sad day when Clifton came to Cleveland -- we are, after all, a one-newspaper town.

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[genius]

6. Just like Hawaii, where he came in second with 30%

That would be great news for those of us who care about who we vote for.

[messiah]

8. Nobody knows who he is

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