NEW RASMUSSEN NATIONAL POLL: CLINTON 36%, OBAMA 33%, 8-POINT SHIFT IN ONE DAY! OBAMA ONLY 3 BACK!

[Dems Will Win]

Democratic Candidates NATIONAL POLL
01/26/08

Clinton 36%
Obama 33%
Edwards 18%

01/25/08

Clinton 41%
Obama 30%
Edwards 16%

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/daily_presidential_tracking_polling_history


It seems the debate really slammed bot but Obama has recovered quickly and Clinton keeps heading down. This is a 7-DAY TRACKING POLL SO THEY ARE LIKELY TIED IN THE LAST DAY OF POLLING. IF it holds up, Obama could tie or even pull ahead, especially if he wins SC.

Hillary seems to have had a really bad day on Friday, yesterday, as another poll picked up:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4208196

Perhaps Bill melting down hurt, plus the way she glared at Obama and Edwards at the debate seems to have hurt her, wiping away the tearing up image and replacing it with that look. She had been trying to avoid THE GLARE in all the debates but finally blew it -- and GLARED.

UPDATE: IT IS A FOUR-DAY TRACKING POLL NOT A 7 AS POINTED OUT BY THE RELENTLESS TWILIGHT ZONE, BUT SHE STILL CRATERED FORM 42-41 to 36 SO SHE MUST BE DOWN AROUND 33 OR SO ON THE LAST DAY. OBAMA COULD BE AHEAD EVEN ON THE LAST DAY OF POLLING. THANKS TZ!

Recommend to help get the word out!

[Kittycat]

1. GOBAMA! And checkout Edwards - WOOT!

[jasmine621]

78. All this means is that Obama will lose big time if he wins primary.

Those 20% going to Edwards will go Independent, Green, or Republican.

If Edwards were out of the race right now, Hillary would be beating Obama big time, even in SC.

[HughMoran]

2. If only national polls meant much of anything

Can Obama go to the convention and say "yeah, but I'm ahead in the national polls"?

[Big Blue Marble]

22. Hugh this is huge,

Every day these national polls mean more and you and I know it.
If Obama wins in SC, it will mean the race is on.

[HughMoran]

40. you mean SC

I know the national polls mean that he may be making some inroads into the SuperTuesday states, if he is, we will know soon enough. Not sure the much expected win today will give as much of a bounce as a win in one of the earlier states, but it can't hurt! A loss today would be utterly devastating, so you have to consider that as well.

[Big Blue Marble]

66. You are right.

And thanks for the correction. I agree with you that a loss today would entirely deflate his campaign.
That is why I am nervously awaiting the outcome.

[MadBadger]

76. After SC, National Polls start to mean something.

[cali]

3. I hope this is true

but even more, I hope that Obama wins SC by over 10 pts.

[suston96]

4. 8 point shift in 1 day? Way too funny.

LMAO! Don't open that champagne yet. In statistics you call that, uh - bullshit.

[papau]

27. A 4 day 800 person poll where replacingMondays with Friday's 200 is 8% swing is hard

to understand.

If true, the race is over and Obama has a 55/30/15 edge when all 4 post debate sets of 200 responses are included in the 800 person tracking poll report.

[suston96]

32. Exactly. Things like that don't happen in real polling.

[Dems Will Win]

59. Happened to Ghouliani!

People have suddenly gotten turned off to the Billary show.

This also showed up on the Zogby SC poll for yesterday, so it's not just this one poll!

[papau]

67. MSNBC Joe has been doing 6 hrs a day smearing Hillary - all of CNC - and a few CNN hrs - plus ABC

's random snark - they all may be having an effect.

The pro-Obana push has been very blatant this week - as has the Mitch is better than Obama.

Obama had better enjoy this now because the media wants Mitch - and are fearful of Hillary it seems.

[GalleryGod]

5. BILL must've finally FOULED OUT in the publics mind

"That's SIX fouls on Brute Force Bill, fans! He's outta here!"
"Obama shoots 2 !"

[Colobo]

9. Exactly. Bill Clinton is not helping his wife. The idea of "Billary"

is in everyone's mind now.

[ginnyinWI]

15. I think it is Bill.

People are seeing a different side of him--a nasty side--and they don't like it. They ask themselves whether they want eight more years of Clintons.

[Colobo]

6. Can you feel it? It's the Obama Train coming your way!

:bounce:

[maddiejoan]

11. Is that the one

that the Gays are getting thrown under?

[ClericJohnPreston]

14. Always

impassioned pleas to irrationality ( thanks for proving my point ), rather than an appeal to reason.

CULTIST!!!!

[maddiejoan]

17. Oh?

I guess I'll feel different after I get 'cured' by some Federally funded conversion therapy that Rev Caldwell will organize.

[Dems Will Win]

18. No that's the one that's going to run over Hillary - she shouldn;t have glared at him during the

debate

[maddiejoan]

19. How dare she raise her eyes

to the Sun God!

[george_maniakes]

24. working hard to raise the level of discourse , eh? n/t

[maddiejoan]

26. How should I respond to

"glared at Obama"?

[george_maniakes]

43. maybe take issue with the way the poster made his comments...

rather than attacking obama because of the posters comments. I dont know who you are, but insulting clinton because i dont like something you said makes no sense to me.

[maddiejoan]

45. Uhm

I was attacking the poster.

[george_maniakes]

53. one: calling obama a sun-god is also attacking obama.

and two: attacking the poster does what exactly? Why not point out where you think he's wrong?

[maddiejoan]

56. Why not climb out of my butt

and let me express myself in a manner that I wish?

Who are you to tell me how to post?

[george_maniakes]

60. im saying bringing other people down doesnt help people as much as raising somebodys ideas up.

You can moon obama if you want to, i just dont think it helps the discussion.

[maddiejoan]

62. duly noted

[CTLawGuy]

70. the sun god Ra?

Ra 4 Prez 08!

[george_maniakes]

23. I'm genuinely curious, why is it you think obama hates gay people? n/t

[maddiejoan]

29. Because he's in bed with members of the "ex-gay" movement.

I don't think he "hates" us.

I think he loves us soooo much, that he hopes Jesus will save us from our sins.

[george_maniakes]

48. What does "hes in bed with" mean?

Does he agree with the goals of the "ex-gay" movement (im not even sure i know what that movement is),

or is he friends with members of that movement? I think those are two very different things.

[maddiejoan]

52. He hasn't denounced them. That's for sure.

He uses their 'code words'. "Embrace them"
It's all part of "Love The Sinner --Hate The Sin"

here's info on Rev Caldwell's "Metanoia Ministry"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4141581&mesg_id=4141581

[george_maniakes]

58. wait a minute. Does that mean if hillary has been with people with whom i disagree with...

and she doesnt specifically denounce them, then that means she agrees with them?

I can understand why you disagree with this rev. caldwell. I can see you would want obama to make a clear statement (if he hasnt already, i have no idea) regarding his position on the views of rev. caldwell. But attributing caldwells views with obama in this instance seems to make about as much sense as clinton not making a statement to denounce lindsey grahm (sp?), whom she has used in her advertisements, even though im sure hes connected to organizations you would have a problem with.

[maddiejoan]

64. Obama has given the "ex-gay" movement

a voice in his campaign.

He needs to address that.

When he does --I'll be happy to once again support his candidacy should he be the nominee.

[george_maniakes]

65. Thats a fair point. Do you think obama can recieve support from people who believe homosexuality...

is sometimes a choice and still be a strong voice for the rights of homosexuals to be treated as equals?

[maddiejoan]

68. LGBT people will not be given equal rights

as long as people who believe it's a "sinful choice" are given a political voice on rights issues.


That's the problem --and that's why Obama giving them a voice is a problem for me.

[george_maniakes]

69. obviously people in america who believe its a "sinful choice" will always have a political voice...

in america because so many people believe that to be the case. But do you believe obama can serve the interests of LGBT people while having people who believe its a "sinful" choice campaign on his behalf? Do you believe any candidate can?

[maddiejoan]

71. Does he have to let them speak at his events?

To my mind this already indicates a willingness to lend credence to their opinions.


Let's put this another way:

There are evangelical Christians who believe that Jews need to be "perfected" by embracing Christ in order to get to Heaven.

Should they be given a political voice? How would you feel about a candidate that gave them that voice?

[george_maniakes]

74. Ok, so do you believe these people speaking at an event of a candidate is the tipping point...

for your support? As in , because he allowed this man to speak at his event, rather than merely received his support, it signaled for you obama was too open to this mans ideas?

Regarding some evangelicals and their beliefs regarding jewish people, they have plenty of elected representatives giving them a voice. That being said, i believe a dialoge can be had with these types of evangelicals, even though on this issue i disagree with them.

[maddiejoan]

75. Yup

That's where I draw my line.

[george_maniakes]

80. Thanks for the good discussion.

[mondo joe]

47. I don't think he hates us. I just know he's willing to sell us out for votes, as

seen in the McClurkin incident.

[Nedsdag]

25. It's no different than when blacks were thrown under the bus

by the Clintons due to "welfare reform" and more African Americans imprisoned during his two terms.

[maddiejoan]

30. Did Clinton

hang out with people that think being "Black" is a sinful choice that can be cured?

[Nedsdag]

38. Clinton has ministers who called homosexuality evil.

They are her supporters, but you overlooked that, right?

Fine, I cannot talk to people such as yourself who hate Obama sooooooo much that you're blinded by your hatred.

[maddiejoan]

42. They are also

against a Constitutional Amendment to ban same-sex marriage --AND they don't get invited on stage to deliver homophobic rants at her fundraisers.

If we shook the tree of every campaign (including Kucinich) I'm sure we would find homophobes galore.

Rather than accuse me of being "blinded by hatred", why don't you ask yourself why I don't support Obama.

What made me reach my decision?

[Nedsdag]

50. I know why you DESPISE Obama.

You assume all African Americans are homophobic. I'm not.

But if you truly believe Hillary will be a change agent for the gay community, you are sadly mistaken.

[maddiejoan]

55. You would be wrong on this.

In fact --it's because I DON'T think all blacks are homophobic that I cannot even comprehend why Obama is pandering to these particular people instead of denouncing them.

[Dems Will Win]

57. You are committing a sin of omission! He pleaded at the Ebeneezer Church for an end

to homophobia directly from blacks and all peoples. Did you miss that or do you discount it somehow?

[maddiejoan]

61. No he didn't

He said we should be 'embraced and not scorned'


This is not the same as his denouncing the myth that "homosexuality is a choice" and a "sin"

Which, given his incredibly horrific choice of giving McClurkin a microphone to spout this type of nonsense --it is his DUTY to do.

[mondo joe]

21. We gays have felt the Obama train coming. On our backs. NT

[cali]

31. His position on GLBT issues

is actually slightly better than Hillary's, and she's got just as many of her own McClurkins.

[maddiejoan]

35. actually it isn't

Obama opposes same-sex marriage on religious grounds.

Hillary is in favor of legalized same-sex marriage as a States issue --and has no personal problems with same-sex marriage.

[mondo joe]

46. I disagree.

Their positions are nearly identical, other than his religious opposition to same sex marriage.

Their actions are different, and there is no excuse for his. And Cali, please do not try to tell me standing on stage with McClurkin at someone else's event is equivalent to giving him a platform to spew his lies.

And then there's Kirbyjohn, which is yet another lose for Obama as far as I'm concerned.

[Adelante]

7. That is NEWS

Let's hope it's not a glitch and all, but day-um. :wow:

[TwilightZone]

8. Look again, it's not a 7-day poll. The latest seven-day was 39-31 Clinton.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

The latest seven day was 39-31 Clinton: http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/weekly_presidential_tracking_polling_history

[Inuca]

16. This makes much more sense

The jump did not make any sense for a 7-day poll. The one day results may be partly a statistical aberation, but I hope they are the beginning of a trend.

[Dems Will Win]

36. That poll is from 1/20

What you linked to was the weekly summary.

AND IT WAS FROM A WEEK AGO!

[TwilightZone]

41. Look again, it's not a 7-day poll. Try actually reading what you posted.

Daily tracking results are collected via nightly telephone surveys and reported on a four-day rolling average basis. The next Presidential Tracking Poll update is scheduled for Sunday at 11:00 a.m.

It's not a seven-day poll.

[Dems Will Win]

51. Ah it's a four day poll you're right, but my point remains then!

If she was at 42-41 for the first 3 days of the poll and then cratered to 36, she must really be lower than that!

I get a delegate and so do you!

[flpoljunkie]

10. Awesome! Somethin's happening here, what it is, ain't exactly clear...

but could it be Bill?

[Barack_America]

12. Wow. This is great news. Thank you. n/t

[KennedyGuy]

13. Print out that poll and hug it on Super Tuesday..

You'll need it..
NoBama..

[calteacherguy]

37. Obama is surging in California, especially in the Bay Area.

I've seen lots of Obama bumper stickers here, but not one for Hillary. Also, San Jose Mercury news just endorsed Obama and everyone I talk to is really enthusiastic about his candidacy. Lots of people aren't satified with Hillary and want to learn more about him. And new ads started running here recently which is also going to tighten the race as more voters get introduced to him.

GoBama!

[book_worm]

20. keep moving up Obama and Edwards

[Blarch]

28. Who woulda thought...

embracing Rove and campaigning like him would hurt her chances with TRUE BLUE DEMOCRATS

The real Hillary is now exposed, and the Democrats don't like what they see.

[george_maniakes]

39. I gotta admit, i dont see how a candidate expects to win by lowering the level of debate.

Give people something to vote for. You dont improve a democracy by putting other people down. You improve it by raising the level of dialoge.

[calteacherguy]

33. Gives me Hope!

[Colobo]

34. Gobama!

:bounce:

[jefferson_dem]

44. Holy Shit. Hillary plummets five points yesterday.

:bounce:

[TwilightGardener]

49. Could it be that the Bill-and-Hill Vaudeville Act is getting tired?

[davidwparker]

54. Good. Keep that NAFTA-signing Clinton out of the White House. n/t

[jenmito]

63. GREAT! This shows that his drop in white voters' support is most likely limited to SC!

:bounce:

[Hope And Change]

72. Great news!

:toast:

[THUNDER HANDS]

73. wow

that's amazing, if true.

[ZinZen]

77. Cautiously optimistic

As this could either be a trend or an outlier. We shall see.

[Dems Will Win]

81. It's backed up by the new Zogby SC poll, which showed a similar movement

Obama is now using humor and making the voters laugh and that is working.

No more negative comments at all.

[Nimrod2005]

79. WOW! OMFG! The more Americans learn about Obama and Billary, the more

they decide no more clintons, bring on hope for change! God, our country needs a positive messgae so damn bad!

[BringBigDogBack]

82. Go O! Go JRE!

:applause:

KR

[creeksneakers2]

83. Play pick the bouncing scores

Hillary is up 3% since January 7. Obama is down 3 points since January 13. Edwards is down 2 points since January 8. We are moving toward a landslide for Hillary?

[loveangelc]

84. :)

[Unsane]

85. Clinton camp: "oohhh fuuuuuuuuuck"

[snot]

86. 1/26/08: that leaves 31%. Edwards only 2 points behind Obama, or who? nt

[ErnestoG]

87. I'm waiting for the DLC/Clinton dynasty drones to trot this one out...

"Obama is unelectable!"

It did so well for us in 2004. Anyone remember that?

[andyrowe]

88. Gobama!

And Go Johnny as well!