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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:35 PM
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Clinton Stumps for Kerry in Nevada (2004)
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 09:36 PM by gulliver
He was an hour late. So when President Bill Clinton took the stage this afternoon at the Clark County Government Center amphitheater, the crowd acted like starving dogs presented with thick, juicy steak.

"We love you! We love you!" a group of women screamed, drowning out Clinton's opening lines for hundreds of people around them.

The Comeback Kid had come to Las Vegas for his first solo campaign appearance in a swing state since his quadruple-bypass heart surgery, a compliment the crowd of 2,500 was determined to return. They cheered at whatever he said, laughed at the slightest hint of a joke and acted for all the world as though the former president were campaigning for his old job, not playing surrogate for Sen. John F. Kerry.

Clinton, beaming, spoke for about 20 minutes, twice as long as he did in remarks he made with Kerry by his side in Philadelphia on Monday, when he made his first campaign appearance since emergency surgery seven weeks ago.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A11027-2004Oct30.html

And in Hawaii too.

http://www.khnl.com/Global/story.asp?S=2490676

And here is Kerry showing his special brand of loyalty to his former running mate Edwards (2008)

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=17994568
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:37 PM
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1. Since he owed BOTH Clinton and Edwards the endorsement, according to you
It's a good thing he endorsed Obama. Now they can both claim they were 'betrayed'!
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:40 PM
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2. Didn't say Kerry owed them the endorsement.
Where you got that, I don't know.

Not sure Clinton would want Kerry's endorsement...but Kerry does owe Clinton something for the help in 2004 that Clinton gave him, right after quadruple bypass surgery, IMO.

Not endorsing Edwards was low. Kerry picked Edwards as vice president for the country, then backstabbed him.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:43 PM
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4. By that logic...
I suppose you would be in favor of a Gore endorsement of the upcoming McCain / Lieberman ticket.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:47 PM
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6. Does the word "that" as in "that logic" mean that...
...you were referring to my logic? I like my logic OK, but I don't think it was the "that logic" you were referring to. I don't see the resemblance except at an extremely coarse, irrelevant level.
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lapfog_1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:59 PM
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11. Your words...
"Not endorsing Edwards was low. Kerry picked Edwards as vice president for the country, then backstabbed him."

So... by your logic that once a Democratic candidate has selected a running mate, to not support that running mate in future elections is backstabbing him or her.

The only other Democratic candidate for president this century is Al Gore. And he picked Joe Lieberman. So if it happens (and I think its very likely) that McCain both wins the Republican primary AND selects Joe Lieberman to run with him... should Al Gore endorse? Or should he endorse someone else? And, by your very words, backstab his former running mate.

I think it's just fine that Kerry does what he wants and says what he wants and endorses who he wants. It's not backstabbing, it's a decision, based on what Kerry feels NOW (2008) about who he wants for President.

Why would you have a problem with that?
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:04 PM
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14. OK, you're right.
I said that Kerry not endorsing Edwards was low and that implies that Al Gore should endorse Lieberman/McCain. Now leave me alone. ;-)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:40 PM
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3. It's hard to endorse someone who won't take your phone calls (Edwards)
and distanced himself from the K/E campaign.

And then there were the Hillary people in Kerry's campaign who worked against him in the end.

Not to mention how she piled on with the GOP re: Kerry's botched joke.

So Kerry should return political favors instead of going with his heart?

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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:46 PM
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5. "and acted for all the world as though the former president were campaigning for his old job"
And so he was, and so he is. Some things never change.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:51 PM
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8. Yes, the reporter knew what Clinton was "acting like."
I love these reporters. They can't report facts, they have to give us their impressions. They couldn't hack medicine, law, or engineering in college, so they took journalism. And I am interested in their impression why?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:49 PM
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7. Kerry has handled this thing suckily.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:51 PM
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9. You guys are really worried about Kerry, aren't you
I mean thread, after thread, after thread.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 09:54 PM
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10. Are you, Wolsh, seriously talking about...
...thread, after thread, after thread?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:00 PM
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12. yeah who's not threatened by kerry
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BlueStateGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:03 PM
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13. I was 10 or 11 rows from the stage that day in Philly. It was easily
my favorite day of the 04 election year. I think we were 8 days out from the election, the crowd was amped. We were positive we were going to win. I could feel it. I remember the way the roar of the crowd echoed of the buildings on the parkway. It was deafening. We were just over 1000 strong. I thought with this many on our side, there was no way we were going to lose.


Good God was I wrong :(
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-25-08 10:05 PM
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15. Clinton campaigned half heartedly for Kerry in 2004 and even then it was more about Clinton then
Edited on Fri Jan-25-08 10:06 PM by wisteria
Kerry. As for Edwards, he distanced himself from Senator Kerry claiming all sorts of untruths.

Senator Kerry is free to endorse whomever he wants to. He believes Senator Obama is our party's best choice for President and the one candidate that will bring real change.
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