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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:20 PM
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If everyone else drops out, can I vote for Kerry then?
This place is so funny sometimes. It seems there are a million different reasons why people who want to vote for Kerry are being told that since he has it apparently wrapped up they should vote for someone else, even guys who've already said, "No mas" and have gone home to chop wood or play Yahtzee or build reproductions of 1955 T-Birds or whatever else "former candidates" do when they are done being candidates.

But heck, I live in New Jersey and we don't have our primary until June so even though I am a Kerry guy I am worried that by June every single candidate except Kerry will have dropped and and then, God help me, what shall I ever do? I will be forced to vote for Kerry. Nevermind that I want to vote for him anyway, but if it is the wise thing to do NOT to vote for him, according to DU sages, then what?

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:27 PM
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1. Careful...
I heard a vote for Kerry is damaging to your Karma.

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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:02 PM
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21. Yes, I saw that post earlier - karma is a big item for me
After all, I want to move up the ladder closer to Nirvana for the next incarnation. If voting for Kerry is going to move me down the ladder, say from human to goldfish, I'd have to think carefully about it.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:28 PM
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2. I almost feel your pain
I get to vote next week in Mississippi and it may be over by then. What the hell is June all about? Hey, I love ya Devil but we can't stretch this thing out until then. By the way, Flyers will prevail in 04.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:36 PM
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5. Dunno, but NJ always has the last major primary
Some 'genius' (maybe the same one who decided it is really cagey political strategy to vote for anyone except the candidate you really want as the nominee) probably figured some day NJ would decide the whole shebang and wowee, why don't we go last? What a coup!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:30 PM
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3. If you prefer Kerry anyway
what the hell difference does it make?

:eyes:
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:33 PM
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4. Well, some folks are tellin' me it is good 'strategery' to vote
for somebody else rather than the guy I want to vote for so this is a real concern. Maybe you can help me out. If (and since our primary isn't until June, that's a big "if") some of these guys are still on the ballot then, how do I go about choosing the amongst the candidates I have already rejected so as to avoid voting for the one I have chosen to vote for?

I mean, I figure this is all a plan by someone much wiser than me to help the Democratic nominee get elected in the fall. You think voting for someone other than who I want (Kerry) would be a cagey move or what?
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HalfManHalfBiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:39 PM
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6. It would be a very cagey move. It is what all the Dean supporters did.
Dean had massive support, leading in all the polls. So the Dean supporters thought they would be tricky and vote for Kerry. That would clear the way for a Dean victory because once people knew Kerry was in the lead, no one would vote for him any more. After all, he already had enough votes.

Seems to be working well for Dean so far.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:45 PM
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11. Aha! Very tricky indeed
The old Three Card Monte nomination strategy! I shoulda known it!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:41 PM
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9. I think those posts are directed at people
who have said they like Kooch's ideas. :shrug:

If you don't, then I don't see why you'd be interested in helping him get a bigger bloc at the convention.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:48 PM
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15. I do like DK but I like Kerry better
Just because I vote for Kerry that certainly does not mean that it is a total rejection of DK or Dean or Clark or anyone else who is or who has been in the race. I think some of the advice here to Kerry supporters in which they are urged not to "waste" a vote on someone who is already the winner is offbase.

What good would it do to vote for someone who is your second choice? For what? To hamstring and limit your first choice at the Convention? Why does that make no sense to me?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:55 PM
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20. If you like Kucinich's liberal platform
it helps get those goals put into the party platform.

If you prefer Kerry then obviously it makes no sense.

But who among us could fool themselves into thinking that everyone who prefers Kucinich's platform is actually voting for him in the primaries? Some think he's too funny looking, others think his radical agenda is the weakness... but whatever the reason, if they like his platform, they can safely vote for Kucinich in the primaries, giving his platform more of a voice at the convention, while still safely counting on Kerry to be the eventual nominee.
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:48 PM
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16. I do like DK but I like Kerry better
Just because I vote for Kerry that certainly does not mean that it is a total rejection of DK or Dean or Clark or anyone else who is or who has been in the race. I think some of the advice here to Kerry supporters in which they are urged not to "waste" a vote on someone who is already the winner is offbase.

What good would it do to vote for someone who is your second choice? For what? To hamstring and limit your first choice at the Convention? Why does that make no sense to me?
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:49 PM
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17. I do like DK but I like Kerry better
Just because I vote for Kerry that certainly does not mean that it is a total rejection of DK or Dean or Clark or anyone else who is or who has been in the race. I think some of the advice here to Kerry supporters in which they are urged not to "waste" a vote on someone who is already the winner is offbase.

What good would it do to vote for someone who is your second choice? For what? To hamstring and limit your first choice at the Convention? Why does that make no sense to me?
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 07:51 PM
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26. Maybe it's directed at people
who have said that Kerry voters have no principles and have all sold their souls. Ya never know.
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:40 PM
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7. If everyone votes for Kerry when he's the only candidate left, are they
Edited on Tue Mar-02-04 03:41 PM by boxster
still "sheep"?

I love the people who claim the *only* reason he's getting votes is because of electability. Experience, issues, etc., count for nothing, apparently. Nope, none of that matters to the sheeple.

/sarcasm
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Nazgul35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:43 PM
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10. good question....
maybe you could compare turnout rates when he is the only candidate left to those races where he had competition....but than I guess you'd say he was winning all the non-voters too, cause if they really didn't like him they'd come out and vote for someon else...

:crazy:

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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:40 PM
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8. LaRouche is not dropping out anytime soon
n/t
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:47 PM
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12. NJ and Montana share the last-in-the-nation primary.

Here we are pushing for a big turnout, and lots of new voters as part of our runup to November.


But, I did get a kick our of your post, lol...
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:53 PM
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19. Wow! Shared a hotel in Dallas once with the Montana
Elks at a Convention. Those were some fun guys!
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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:47 PM
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13. No, you still can't vote for Kerry. Last night I learned it will make you
responsible for the Iraq war, and I just learned it will make you responsible for the Holocaust as well. *sigh*


Guess what? It's hopeless


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NightNurse Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:58 PM
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25. Hey, MD...thanks for the Jocularity!
As Father Mulcahy would say!:hi:
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:48 PM
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14. Sure, go ahead
Nothing wrong with voting for the guy you want to win.

I've been a Texas liberal for so long that I'm uncomfortable with the concept of winning, so I feel good sticking with my own lost cause.

Come November, don't worry, I'll be voting for Kerry (presumably) even though I expect Busholini will have the state pretty much sewed up.
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IrateCitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 03:49 PM
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18. No.
n/t
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:06 PM
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22. no
you are forbidden by the purity police
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LittleDannySlowhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:14 PM
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23. Write him in
as a protest vote!
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 04:18 PM
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24. Write who in? Kerry? Oh, wow, what strategery
Kerry's is definitely gonna be on the NJ ballot. Oh, I get it! You guys sure are geniuses in the strategery department. Even though he is on the ballot I should write in "John Kerry" as a protest against---what?
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Jersey Devil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 10:11 PM
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27. PS - Super Tuesday and JE is out - How about now?
Do I have to wait for DK and Sharpton to drop out too?
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