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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:34 AM
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I'm getting fed up with Obama and Clinton
Damn, those were my first two choices, and maybe still are, but only because I think by electing a black man or woman we open up the Presidency to another 50% of the population, and change the face of American politics forever. But, Obama's pathetic pandering to religious extremists, Republicans, and implying the Clinton campaign is racist and Hillary's consistent lies about Obama's record are a real turn off. Edwards is the most liberal and now he's coming off as the most mature and selfless, while Obama and Clinton are engaged in the politics of personal destruction. I think if Edwards comes in second in SC, a lot of Dems are going to rethink who they support. My biggest worry with Edwards is whether an anti-corporate message can win Independents, who are more concerned with their 401Ks and stock options than anything else.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:39 AM
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1. "mature and selfless"
Yep, that is John!

Go John!
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:05 AM
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6. Selfless? Uh, have you seen his house?
Please.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:10 AM
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7. You must be kidding
They all have nice houses. Here's Obama's:

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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:18 AM
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8. Show us a picture of Edwards's
A wee bit larger, iirc.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 09:25 AM
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9. Who cares?
He's richer than Obama. Clinton's probably richer, too. I would guess that too a poor person, they all look very rich.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:41 AM
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2. I hear you and agree. The indy's should be concerned about their
Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 08:41 AM by BridgeTheGap
401ks and stock options. There are big time raiders out there who will suck up this wealth in a heart beat, if given the chance AND BUSH has given them the chance!
The problem with Obama and Clinton is that they will not focus on what's really wrong in this country. No one who takes special interest money for their campaigns CAN TALK ABOUT IT without biting the hand that feeds them. Everyone expects Republicans to do this shit but when Dems do it, it turns the campaign into just more of the same, with CHANGE shouted loud and long because that's what most people want. But what change? AS LONG AS THEY'RE TAKING THE MONEY FROM THESE SPECIAL INTERESTS, THERE WILL BE NO CHANGE!!!
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:44 AM
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3. I wonder how many more people are getting "fed up" with
Obama and Hillary, and will look to the darkhorse candidate Edwards, do we really need all this in fighting between candidates when the repigs are probably going to use this against the democratic party, cause you know they will.
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:51 AM
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4. I'm there already
We must completely reject this behavior.
These two are seriously jeopardizing the "slam-dunk" of having a non-Republican administration in '08.
This isn't about a woman or an African-American. It's about two people with little agenda other than their own self-interests.
Someday, this country will elect someone from a demographic that is now considered to be a minority. On that day, no one will notice that the elected one is a woman, a hispanic, or an African-American.
That's when we can say we've truly arrived.
Unfortunately for the country and the Democratic party, it is now apparent that neither Clinton nor Obama represent a new direction in politics or the hackneyed "change" that both purport to bring.
Even more unfortunately is the fact that without a serious consideration of Dennis Kucinich, we are left with a good choice in Edwards, but yet it will be another rich white guy.
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-24-08 08:54 AM
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5. Wow...Edwards Magically Loses His Attack Dog Mantle!
For months, Edwards was the guy slamming whoever he could reach with a baseball bat and now he is the new Ghandi!

Amazing what a media moment can do for someone!
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