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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:56 AM
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Is the Media your enemy?
Of course it is. Want to do something about it? Think voting for Kerry or Edwards will put the corporate media in its place? Think again. We cant get anything done until the media is reformed. You only have one way of getting there from here, Democratic America.
Vote Dennis Kucinich while you still have a chance!
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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:02 AM
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1. Skull and Bones already ordered me to vote Kerry
Sorry, there's no turning back now.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:04 AM
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2. but what are they payin?
seriously.
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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 02:17 AM
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3. They made me an offer I couldn't refuse.
I may have told you too much already. :scared:
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:39 PM
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14. I guess your humor is lost on me
I see nothing funny about the looting of our hopes and dreams.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 10:20 AM
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4. Does anyone consider them to be a friend?
Certainly many watch cable news agog, like a snake that bites them over and over, but they just cant get enough of it.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 10:59 AM
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5. I hardly even bother watching
What's the point?
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:24 AM
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6. some people seem not to have reached that conclusion
what is the easiest way to hurl these fools through the looking glass?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 11:46 AM
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7. *sigh*
I'm afraid I've come 'round to believing the worst is true: until they suffer personally they won't (see IGMFU). :(
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:01 PM
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8. The media does the physically impossible
It both sucks and blows at the same time.

I always knew the media wasn't telling the whole story, but the last 18 months have dotted the "i" and crossed the "t" for me.

Its shoddy reporting leading up to Iraq, its blackout of DK and his message, and its attempted crucifixion of Dean has done it for me.

But I'll NEVER give up hope!

:hi:
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:36 PM
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12. Just be sure to base that hope on structural change...
until then, there's plenty of good independent media that can be trusted.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:06 PM
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9. Big corporations own it and work it in their own interests, imho. (n/t)
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SeattleRob Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:10 PM
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10. our only hope
True campaign finance reform (getting $$'s out of politics) and breaking up the media monopolies would be a start to fixing this problem. The other important thing we need to do is get most Americans - including a lot of people here - to face reality and stop being in denial about the corporate media disinformation.
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tinanator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:23 PM
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11. the other important thing has to be done first, breaking the hold
no question about it. What we need to do is brainstorm the shortest most effective way of getting it done. The immediate Haiti AP experience is so textbook. They are the MIIC's mightiest weapon.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:38 PM
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13. It's astonishing to see so many supposedly intelligent people...
take the side of big media and lend it ANY credibility.

Corporate Media = 0 Credibility
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:42 PM
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15. Kucinich will not change it.
He TALKS like he will, but I have no confidence that he can accomplish anything. Even if some miracle whisks him into office, I don't think that he'd get anything done. Kerry and Edwards, on the other hand, will.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:46 PM
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17. And you're basing this on.... ?
Kerry's principled fight to raise awareness of BBV issues, maybe?

Edwards' ability to be on both sides of the trade issue at once?

:eyes:
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Monte Carlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:51 PM
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19. Because the media will not tolerate him.
They do not suffer upstarts. They did it with Dean, they could do it with Kucinich. It is foolish to take them head-on.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:45 PM
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16. uh ... that's why I'm voting for Dean today
Dean's the only one who said the truth about the media.

He got butchered for it.

I'm voting for him anyway, it's the least I can do. Maybe he'll get enough delegates (I'm in California, the big kahuna of delegates) that he can get something decent on the platform re: the media
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 12:47 PM
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18. Dennis also speaks the truth about the media. n/t
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