Video: Former President of Chicago NOW calls Hillary a liar, personally witnessed

[DesEtoiles]

Hillary's campaign workers spreading false information on Obama

Switches from supporting HIllary to supporting Obama

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1/23/213221/309/346/442059

[Colobo]

1. People are paying attention and who's lying

and who's for real...

[Jim Sagle]

2. That's why Obama's tubing.

;)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

16. english translation, please?

what did you just say?

[Jim Sagle]

17. Tubing, tanking, flopping - whatever you want to call it.

And I don't need any snark about my English from someone who can't even spell antifascist.

[Zueda]

22. Do you mean tubbing?

When I go tubing it usually involves a river, a couple of intertubes and a cooler full of beer.

on edit. oh and it looks like Clinton is tubbing. Carville was on Today this morning trying to undo what he was probably responsible for.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

25. actually, if you wish to communicate,

you might try our language.

Tubing -
1. a hollow, usually cylindrical body of metal, glass, rubber, or other material for conveying or containing liquids or gases.
2. a small, collapsible, cylinder of metal or plastic sealed at one end and having a capped opening at the other from which paint, toothpaste, or some other semifluid substance may be squeezed.
3. Anatomy, Zoology. any hollow, cylindrical vessel or organ: the bronchial tubes.
4. Botany.
a. any hollow, elongated body or part.
b. the united lower portion of a gamopetalous corolla or a gamosepalous calyx.
5. inner tube.
6. Electronics. electron tube.
7. Informal.
a. television.
b. a television set.
8. mailing tube.
9. the tubular tunnel in which an underground railroad runs.
10. the railroad itself.
11. Surfing Slang. the curled hollow formed on the underside of a cresting wave.
12. British. subway (def. 1).
13. Australian Slang. a can of beer.
14. Older Slang. a telescope.
–verb (used with object)
15. to furnish with a tube or tubes.
16. to convey or enclose in a tube.
17. to form into the shape of a tube; make tubular.


I don't mind creativity when appropriate, (as here, when my choice of name was previously taken, so I took liberties with an expression of where I stand politically) nor do I mind word games and humor, sarcasm, or oblique references.

Your entry contained none of those. Nor did it use the word in a way that is defined by common usage.

If you want to be an ass and complain when people understandably ask for a translation, by all means, continue in that fashion.

[Jim Sagle]

32. Going down the tubes:

From TheFreeDictionary:

tube (tb, tyb)
n.
1.
a. A hollow cylinder, especially one that conveys a fluid or functions as a passage.
b. An organic structure having the shape or function of a tube; a duct: a bronchial tube.
2. A small flexible cylindrical container sealed at one end and having a screw cap at the other, for pigments, toothpaste, or other pastelike substances.
3. Music The cylindrical part of a wind instrument.
4. Electronics
a. An electron tube.
b. A vacuum tube.
5. Botany The lower, cylindrical part of a gamopetalous corolla or a gamosepalous calyx.
6. Chiefly British
a. An underground railroad tunnel.
b. An underground railroad system, especially the one in London, England.
7. A tunnel.
8.
a. An inner tube.
b. An inflatable tube or cushion made of rubber or plastic and used for recreational riding, as behind a motor boat or down a snow-covered slope.
9. Informal
a. Television: What's on the tube?
b. A television set.
10. tubes Informal The fallopian tubes.
v. tubed, tub·ing, tubes
v.tr.
1. To provide with a tube; insert a tube in.
2. To place in or enclose in a tube.
v.intr.
To ride or float on an inflated tube for recreation.
Idiom:
down the tubes/tube Slang
Into a state of failure or ruin: saw her plans go down the tubes.

Google

tubing "down the tubes" flop

for about 7000 examples.

[dionysus]

29. to use your phrase

that post ain't nuthin but shit.

[jasmine621]

21. And Hillary was correct in saying that Obama was "weak" on choice.

He may have received 100% from NOW but that may have been to get him elected. Voting "present" is a sign of "weakness" to me.

HC is also correct revealing that Obama's voting record demonstrates a lack of willingness to take responsibility for tough decisions.

[maddiejoan]

3. Who is lying then?

http://www.illinoisnow.org/

Obama Was Present, But He Was Not There On Issues That Mattered to Illinois Women
In celebration of Women’s History Month, March 28, 2007, the National Organization for Women Political Action Committee, NOW PAC, announced its endorsement of Hillary Clinton for President (see article below).

Illinois NOW PAC supported the endorsement of Senator Clinton. “She is, after all, our native sister,” said Bonnie Grabenhofer, president of Illinois NOW. “We know from her record and in her heart she will be there for us.”

Senator Clinton has a long history of support for women's empowerment, and her public record is a testimony to her leadership on issues important to women in the U.S. and around the globe. She has eloquently articulated the need for full economic, political and social equality for women in every institution of society, taking action throughout her career — as a lawyer, community leader, First Lady, Senator and candidate for the presidency — to advance the civil and human rights of women and girls.

After looking at his record, Grabenhofer does not feel the same way about Illinois Senator Barack Obama.

During Senator Obama’s 2004 senate campaign, the Illinois NOW PAC did not recommend the endorsement of Obama for U.S. Senate because he refused to stand up for a woman’s right to choose and repeatedly voted ‘present’ on important legislation.

As a State Senator, Barack Obama voted ‘present’ on seven abortion bills, including a ban on 'partial birth abortion,' two parental notification laws and three 'born alive' bills. In each case, the right vote was clear, but Senator Obama chose political cover over standing and fighting for his convictions.

“When we needed someone to take a stand, Senator Obama took a pass,” said Grabenhofer. “He wasn’t there for us then and we don’t expect him to be now.”

For more information on the endorsement go to www.nowpac.org

[Lucinda]

5. LOL. You beat me to it...but just barely.

:thumbsup:

[maddiejoan]

6. no worries :)

GMTA

[neutron]

12. They've got that video up at Daily Kos

followed by a barrage of the usual smears from Obamites.
I think Daily Kos should be taken down. It has no credibility. All the diaries are either John Edwards ads or HRC smears. It has gone into the toilet. How do they get a convention and what kind of idiots does it attract.

[maddiejoan]

13. Meh

If Obama wants to fight "who is better on pro-choice" with Hillary as he goes into SC let him.

He's gonna find a lot of the church goers he's been fighting to get, decide to stay at home.

[Beacool]

14. Why do you bother going there?

Daily Kos to me represents the left wing fringe of the party. I can't even bother to check the garbage they spew on a daily basis. Why get aggravated? Simply ignore them.

[Le Taz Hot]

26. Daily Kos is the left-wing fringe??????

LOL! In 2004 they chose the "centrist" Kerry over Dean. Left wing? No, I assure you Kos is trying REAL hard to nuzzle up to the big boys in order to be included in the web version of mainstream.

[Lucinda]

4. Lets look and see what NOW says:

http://www.illinoisnow.org/

In celebration of Women’s History Month, March 28, 2007, the National Organization for Women Political Action Committee, NOW PAC, announced its endorsement of Hillary Clinton for President (see article below).

Illinois NOW PAC supported the endorsement of Senator Clinton. “She is, after all, our native sister,” said Bonnie Grabenhofer, president of Illinois NOW. “We know from her record and in her heart she will be there for us.”

Senator Clinton has a long history of support for women's empowerment, and her public record is a testimony to her leadership on issues important to women in the U.S. and around the globe. She has eloquently articulated the need for full economic, political and social equality for women in every institution of society, taking action throughout her career — as a lawyer, community leader, First Lady, Senator and candidate for the presidency — to advance the civil and human rights of women and girls.

After looking at his record, Grabenhofer does not feel the same way about Illinois Senator Barack Obama.

During Senator Obama’s 2004 senate campaign, the Illinois NOW PAC did not recommend the endorsement of Obama for U.S. Senate because he refused to stand up for a woman’s right to choose and repeatedly voted ‘present’ on important legislation.

As a State Senator, Barack Obama voted ‘present’ on seven abortion bills, including a ban on 'partial birth abortion,' two parental notification laws and three 'born alive' bills. In each case, the right vote was clear, but Senator Obama chose political cover over standing and fighting for his convictions.

“When we needed someone to take a stand, Senator Obama took a pass,” said Grabenhofer. “He wasn’t there for us then and we don’t expect him to be now.”

For more information on the endorsement go to www.nowpac.org

[avaistheone1]

8. Ewwww. Obama playing it safe again with "present" votes.

That is not a good thing.

[avaistheone1]

7. I am not getting any sound when I play that video. Any one else this same problem?

I adjusted the dial on the video, the one on my computer, and the one on my speaker and still no sound.


:banghead:

[ThatPoetGuy]

9. Did you actually watch the video?

There's no proof that this woman was EVER a Hillary supporter. She gave thousands of dollars to many Democrats, but I can't find a single donation to Hillary.

If she had met with Obama so often and worked with him so closely, as she claims, why was she a Hillary supporter in the first place? It doesn't really add up, does it?

[maddiejoan]

11. Not only that

But she's a "former President" of Chicago NOW --who just happens to disagree with the President of Illinois NOW on Obama?

[Renew Deal]

10. That video is absolutely brutal.

:nuke:

[MonkeyFunk]

15. Wow!

The President of Chicago?

For reals?

[Jim Sagle]

18. Is that like the Emporer of Ice Cream?

;)

[Onlooker]

19. She's just like the rest of us

http://www.fashionwindows.com/room_service/2005/clinton.asp

The event was a rare opportunity to speak with some of New England’s most prominent socialites and to learn a bit more of their style choices in their world replete with social obligations. Here, European and American labels got on well together.

Lorna Brett Howard of New York hosted the fundraiser in her elegant home located adjacent to Gramercy Park, New York’s only private park.

Mrs. Howard opted for a layered dress in green created by Prada, and which falls just below the knees. The dress was set off by wide satin belt and Mrs. Howard’s sensible selection of diamond earrings and a gold bracelet.

[Marrah_G]

20. Yup- That sounds like an average weekend for me.

[chascarrillo]

23. Thanks for the link to proof that she was a Clinton supporter

Much appreciated!

Do have a question, though: How does her being a socialite invalidate her statements regarding Obama's pro-choice voting record?

[Onlooker]

24. To a degree

She lives in an exclusive fantasy world.

I know that Obama is as pro-choice as Clinton, but I also know both sides are playing politics. For instance, Obama's pandering to Republicans as the party of ideas and his pandering to homophobic elements of the religious community is just as wrong as Clinton's distortion of his record. Right now, both Obama and Clinton's campaigns are awful.

[chascarrillo]

28. Socialite = bad. Largest mansion in the county = good.

You can't criticize Brett Howard without criticizing Edwards for the same largess.

[Onlooker]

31. Sure I can!

Clinton, Obama, and Edwards all live in gorgeous houses. I have no idea of their market values or the reasons for them having such elaborate houses, except that they're rich, and a big house is something the rich can afford. In our political system we are stuck with the power of wealth. (Even Obama is a millionaire.) But, none of our candidates are exclusives. They are all working hard to reach out to everyone. Socialites are exclusive; they exclude people.

[Blarch]

27. Of course they are lying.

I live here and can confirm it. The Clintons are lying hacks.

[jefferson_dem]

30. Yup.

A truly shameful lot.