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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 01:30 PM
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Edwards ad: "What's happened to the Democratic Party? Whatever happened to the party of the people?"
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 01:39 PM by bigtree
from TPM: http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/edwards_ad_what_happened_to_the_democratic_party.php


Edwards Ad: "What Happened To The Democratic Party?"

By Eric Kleefeld
January 22, 2008

John Edwards has a new ad in South Carolina, attacking both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama for taking money from drug companies (Obama) and lobbyists (Clinton), then presenting "our John Edwards" as the alternative for South Carolinians:

"What's happened to the Democratic Party?" the announcer asks. "Whatever happened to the party of the people?"
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 01:39 PM
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1. What happened?
Well John, while you were in the Senate no legislation was brought forward to eliminate private funding of campaigns and replace it with a publicly funded election system.

Of course, I understand that the GOP controlled things back then, but you could have been lambasting this corrupt system long before this primary season, dont you think?
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 01:43 PM
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2. Just be glad he's trying to do something about it now.
And he's the only one.

You want things to get better? Vote for change - and that's not Hillary or Barack.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 01:48 PM
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3. Vote for change - and that's not Hillary or Barack
That would be as effective as voting for change by supporting Nader in 2000 at this point.

The only thing that would result in is getting the worst one of those two (Hillary) nominated.

Sorry, Im not going there.
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:14 PM
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6. He's also the major victim of it now
something all pols should have realized after 2000. It is not worth demonizing anyone over this because we are all victims of the raw money dominance. It is simple corruption of the entire process.

More important than the chances of any individual candidacy is getting a sea change on this much sidelined much delayed much opposed yet popular reform. Campaign finance and protect the vote. I would like this written in blood into the party platform and giving John delegates should provide noisy clout to make sure this happens- if nothing else.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:24 PM
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12. That's right. He's more progressive now. @sshole!
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:05 PM
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4. What happened? Here's what happened:


K & R
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:13 PM
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5. Kick n/t
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:14 PM
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7. K&R
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:20 PM
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8. We have needed campaign finance reform and maybe it will have to be done
State by State amending the Constitution

Though how you would get it around the Supreme Court ruling such an amendment to be unConstitutional, I don't know.
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Dante_ Donating Member (246 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:20 PM
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9. We grew up. But really, we've grown. Look at how...we've...gulp...changed
Look at how many sides there are on any given issue. The Democratic party ahs grown. To not grow would be conservative.

Change...we changed. Change is not always pleasant but it is unavoidable.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:21 PM
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10. K&R n/t
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:22 PM
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11. It was acquired in a hostile takeover
and there was no white knight to save it.

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:37 PM
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13. What happened?
Corporate Lobbyists were invited to the table!

"Centrist" Democrats (sic) reached across the aisle (and pocketed the money).







"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone




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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 03:06 PM
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14. What happened indeed
*sigh*
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:27 AM
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15. DLC
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 11:38 AM
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16. Dominated now by corporate whores that help the pukes screw the working class.
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