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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:05 PM
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What if Edwards holds the key to who gets the nomination?
I'm thinking at the end Hillary may not have the number of delegates to win outright but would have a sizable lead over Obama. Maybe Edwards decision to give his delegates to a candidate could prove critical.

Edwards will continue to pick up delegates in some states if he stays in, I think this is what he has in mind when he says he will go to the convention.

I suggest Hillary should make a deal with Edwards and give him an important position in her administration if he gives her delegates to her.

This primary race is very interesting and could get even more as it goes on.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:06 PM
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1. He'll make a deal with Obama before making one with Clinton. nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:08 PM
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2. I don't know about that. (nt)
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:09 PM
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4. If he didnt, be just be a liar.
All those times he came out against Clinton, calling her the status quo and him and Obama the people looking for change, if he went with her, hed be the liar I always thought he was.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:11 PM
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8. Did you not notice that Edwards has more in common with Hillary on healthcare?
I think things aren't so simplistic as you seem to perceive them to be.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:17 PM
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14. All I know is what I hear out of John's Mouth, and that is she is the status quo...
And him and Obama are agents of change.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:19 PM
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18. Words? From politicians?
Words are for communication... policy is how work gets done.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:22 PM
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20. A LIAR? God, you people are going NUTS over pure SPECULATION!
Calm down. Back to REALITY.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:25 PM
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22. Yeah, I'm just trying to ingore that kind of stuff... trying to follow John's lead.
:patriot:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:11 PM
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7. Did you hear him after Iowa? He talked about how, by making
Clinton third in that Caucus the people were wanting "change" (represented by himself and Obama) over the "status quo" (represented by Hillary).
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:12 PM
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9. It was a speech. I go more by their policies than platitudes. (nt)
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:13 PM
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11. Obama and Edwards are closer than Clinton and Edwards.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:16 PM
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12. Not on healthcare.
Maybe on trade.

Dunno about environment / energy... but the Energy Policy Act / nuclear plants thing... I would think he's closer to Clinton.

:shrug:
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:18 PM
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16. War. Lobbyists.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:20 PM
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19. War?
Are you saying he's closer to Obama on the war?


And what about lobbyists?
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:27 PM
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23. Yes, he's closer to Obama on the war, and neither Edwards
nor Obama take Lobbyist or PAC money for their campaigns.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:29 PM
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24. I'm not sure about whether he's closer to Obama on the war...
but I'm sure that Edwards' perception of whether Obama takes lobbyist or PAC money is NOT the same as yours.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:52 PM
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26. In the debate last night he acknowledged that Obama has
not taken PAC money during this election cycle. And, the FEC report bears out that fact. The donation page of groups to the Edwards and Obama campaigns is very short...that same list is HUGE for the Clinton campaign.

Go to www.fec.org, and follow the link to do a candidate search. Search by each candidates name, and when their page comes up click on the link to "committees who gave to this candidate." Be ready to get sick to see which groups are influencing each campaign. If you are concerned about lobbyists conrol on Washington...if you do this exercise...you will not vote for Hillary Clinton. Period.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:08 PM
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3. I would certainly hope so.
If Edwards is serious about his campaign rhetoric, he knows that the Bush-Clinton dynasty must end before any of it can become a reality.
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Stop Cornyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:10 PM
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5. Imagine Edwards pushing Obama to adopt his health care plan or Hillary to adopt his views on trade
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:13 PM
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10. Yup... whichever candidate adopted *even more* of his policies (heheh)
would get the delegates.

I'm kind of surprised so many are seeing it so simplistically.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:11 PM
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6. That's interesting. I didn't know that candidates could give...
their delegates to someone else.

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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:16 PM
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13. I'm not sure how it works
Maybe they can't, I'm kinda guessing here, to be honest.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:18 PM
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15. It's what I've been saying throughout and most have scoffed at the notion n/t
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 12:18 PM by Infinite Hope
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:19 PM
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17. I don't think it'll happen but more importantly I think he would let the voters decide
and by that I mean I think he would respect the voters voice by basing his decision on the popular vote. Edwards is a good guy, and I think he will put the voters first and trust their choice, whether that falls in favor of Hillary or Obama I don't know, but the voters should be respected.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:23 PM
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21. H.C. had a private meeting
with Edwards after the Monday night debate. If she offered him anything, I hope he doesn't bite. He is closer to Obama than H.C. Quite possibly if he casts his lot with Obama, then, they could probably overcome H.C.'s lead with delegates. On the other hand, the super delegates are probably more on H.C.'s side. Maybe if Letterman would be to Edwards what Oprah was to Obama, as they joked on Letterman's last night, then the two of them together would be unbeatable. At least I can dream.
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 12:59 PM
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25. Maybe Edwards will win...
Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 01:00 PM by dajoki
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:54 PM
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27. Well then Hillary & Barack better be nice. nt
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