Time Magazine sez: After tonight, we won't see a Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton ticket...

[Bicoastal]

...the fighting has just gotten too nasty.

What do you guys think? True or untrue?

[BringBigDogBack]

1. True

But I never thought we would.

[avaistheone1]

2. I'm not surprised.

People either love or hate Hillary and Obama. I don't see coupling these two candidates bringing the Democrats to the polls in droveds to win.

I think this could be our ticket to sit out the next 8 years. It would never work.

[OHdem10]

3. As an Edwards supporter, I never believed there would

be such a ticket. It would not be good for the party.

[CelloPaddy]

4. I already knew this, I wonder why they didn't nt

[NJObamaWoman]

5. Duh lol Thats not news to me and in a way I'm glad because

if HRC gets the ticket I think she will great slaughtered. I rather BO stay clear of that. Then he can run later with more "experience', full support of the Dem party and win which is something that I don't think HRC will be able to do.

[Kucinich4America]

16. You're right about Hillary getting slaughtered if she gets the ticket.

But that will the end of Obama's chances as well, as there will never be another election after that. This really is our last chance to fix this shit. Anybody who thinks I'm exaggerating, or being a drama queen is ignoring the last 7 years, including the economic mess we all might very well wake up to in the morning.

[mahina]

19. I wish I disagreed,

on both points.

Care to wager about tomorrow?
I'm guessing we'll lose about 200-250 pts before the opportunists give us some cpr.

[lurky]

21. How far does it have to go before they halt trading?

If the foreign markets have all dropped 10% to 15% since Friday, the Dow would have to drop something like 1500 points to match that.

What do you mean by opportunists, anyway? Short sellers?

[enigmatic]

6. JFK hated LBJ

The feeling was mutual. Poppy Bush couldn't stand Reagan; "Voodoo Economics" was the enduring put-down of the GOP 1980 election. Clinton and Gore weren't exactly buddies, either.

Hillary and Obama aren't that far from each other on just about every issue; though it's much less like that Hillary would ever be Obama's VP pick, it wouldn't shock me to see Obama on Hillary's ticket if she wins the nomination. They complement each other too much for it not to happen.

[mahina]

20. I don't think Obama would take vp,

and you can be sure Hillary won't either.

[MADem]

27. Actually, LBJ hated JFK, not the other way around. He thought JFK "jumped the line"

They came to an accord eventually, and LBJ continued to be very solicitous of Jackie even after the murder, but they certainly weren't in love and LBJ was very bored.

With Reagan and Bush, it was REAGAN, and NANCY, who couldn't bear The Bushes. Reagan thought George was an effete little shit. Nancy didn't like both of them. Nancy was downright rude to them.

Obama doesn't have the strengths to complement a HRC ticket. She needs a balancer with an executive portfolio. A governor would be good.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

7. Utter BS from the CW crowd. Tonight changed nothing, ticket-wise

If it was possible before ("if"), then it still is.

They would have said the same thing after Johnson suggested Kennedy had a very serious illness in 1960. (Which he did, and was hiding.)

[SeattleGirl]

8. They just figured that one out?

Color me surprised -- not.

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

9. Wasn't looking forward to one anyway

Too bad Edwards is used goods, wouldn't mind him as a VP.

[Kucinich4America]

10. Any ticket with Hillary on it is unacceptable

This Bush-Clinton shit has to end, if we are to have any hope of saving this country.

[Monty__]

11. I don't think there would have been anyway

and the only way would have been Clinton-Obama. No way Hillary would have accepted the VP role.

[hfojvt]

12. I never thought we would

Basically, having a woman or black leading the ticket is unusual enough, but having a ticket that is both of those together? That's asking for trouble. The last time there was a woman on the ticket, the Democratic Party got almost skunked. In 1988, Jesse made a good run for the nomination, but he wasn't put on the ticket. I think the country is probably ready for either Obama/Dodd or Clinton/Clark but that either Clinton/Obama or Obama/Clinton would be a huge political risk likely to lead to a McGovern/Mondale type loss.

[Cha]

13. I saw it before time did.

Obama wouldn't want hilary.

[Eurobabe]

14. This was never a possiblity, neither ever had the desire to

be anything but number one. And Obama sure doesn't want to be a weak sister on a Hill/Bill ticket. They are all 3 too strong personalities to ever come together on a ticket.

[Occam Bandage]

15. True, sort of. You want to paint Clinton as a phony?

Show a clip of her tonight, and then a clip of her and VP-candidate Obama acting all friendly.

But really, there was no way that ticket was happening anyway.

[Unsane]

17. How does Hillary help an Obama ticket??

I've never figured that out.


I can see how Obama would help a Hillary ticket; but not vice versa. Hillary needs Obama more than the other way around.

[DUyellow]

18. Thank God, I would hope that Obama would not sell out.

[lurky]

22. They are both center-left Northerners from blue states.

They're not going to get any kind of electoral map advantage from picking each other. I don't think it was ever in the cards.

I could definitely see them asking Edwards, though (or vice versa :) ). Would he want to? Who knows.

[0007]

23. True! Pagin Don King .... pagin' Don King

A billion dollars gate if King could get 'em in the ring.

[Egnever]

24. LOL after tonight

they clearly havent been paying attention

[MADem]

25. Those idiots just figured that out?

Clinton would never take second place, first of all, and Obama doesn't have the "balance" she would need as a number two.

Besides the fact that their staffs aren't on good terms.

I see a governor in the VP slot.

[BluegrassDem]

26. An all-white ticket sure will bring out African-Americans in droves

For the first time in history, African-Americans have got a taste...a sample of the possibility that a black person could become president. If Hillary wins the nomination and puts a white guy on the ticket, she basically can write off the black vote.

[MADem]

28. What if she puts an Hispanic on the ticket? Or an Asian? nt

[Azathoth]

29. That possibility was never really on the table anyway

It was clear from the start that Hillary (a) has far too high an opinion of herself to ever settle for VP and (b) would never choose a running mate who had the audacity to throw a wrench in her plans for a two-month-long coronation ceremony.

It's possible Obama, who is a relatively young guy with a long career ahead of him, was at one point open to an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket, but after the slash-and-burn campaign Hillary has run, I seriously doubt he even wants to be in the same room with her now.

[jpgray]

30. What about Reagan's VP and their history?

:hide:

:D

It could still happen, possibly.