Hillary is beating Obama in the Florida hispanic vote 74% - 9%

[Herman Munster]

He's going to get creamed in California.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=792ef5c8-bea0-4f6f-aaf7-def312372884

[madfloridian]

1. Hillary is and always has been inevitable.

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[Danger Mouse]

54. Three words: fuck that noise.

[mrmx9]

2. Doesn't this clear racism by Hispanics not trouble you?

Hillary wins because Hispanics won't vote for an African American. That is something to be really depressed about!

[IndianaJones]

5. idiotic. nt.

[Colobo]

9. Si, es correcto. (You're right.)

That's what it is. I'm Hispanic. A black one. Born and raised in Latin America with post-graduate studies on literature, culture and race relations on the region. I PERSONALLY know how it works.

[mondo joe]

34. I don't know why you assume it's racism. That's rather bigoted of you. NT

[oasis]

41. Maybe it's the "Hussein" how do you know it's because of race?

[Zueda]

3. You Failed!

FL Hispanics and CA Hispanics are very different.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. He Isn't Doing Much Better Among Cali Hispanics

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=1e03ce76-ecf5-46b8-86a5-4a5cd6d9bc67

But I guess you are correct...Most Latino folks in Cali are from Mexico...In FL they are from Cuba, Puerto Rico, Colombia, Venezuela, Brazil, and Mexico...

[stray cat]

4. Obama is doing very poorly with hispanics

Hillary does worse with men than any other constituent. There does appear to be some racial and sexist trends based on just ratios that is a concern for either candidate in a general election.

[Honeycombe8]

10. Yes, there does seem to be a hispanic vs. Af. American thing in this country.

Just based on my observations over the last 20 years. You would think that they would have an affinity for each other's positions in a white society, but they don't seem to. Here in my city, there seems to be some sort of tendency to ...I don't want to say dislike....but not overly like the other. I don't know why that is. Maybe they compete for the same jobs?

[thunder rising]

22. The Republicans have wedgied the Latinos so bad they are tasting the cotton.

They've been played for suckers by that party for years and I guess they love the role.

[aquart]

35. So now you're insulting Hispanics?

That takes real political genius.

[Colobo]

6. I already explained why this is.

For instance, I'm not surprised. Still, I'm confident Obama will win.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. You Gave A Very Informed Discourse

But, maybe, they just remember the Clinton years fondly... It was a good time to be an American, white, black, or brown...

[Colobo]

29. Yes, but it's more than that.

Latinos loved Clinton. Yes. They still do. But they also have the other situation on their minds as well... you know what I mean.

[Honeycombe8]

7. FL has been expelled. I know you're grasping at straws, but really.

shouldn't you be sticking to states that, like, count?

Yes....Hillary will get California, probably. So, see...you don't need to go looking for good news under rocks that don't count.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I Think Folks Are Trying To Make The Case

That Florida looks a lot more like the rest of the U.S., demographically, than Iowa, New Hampshire, yes even Michigan, and Nevada than the rest of the nation...

[teleharmonium]

45. not buying it

I don't think that's true. Here in the midwest I don't see a preponderance of olds, right wing Cubans, or girls gone wild. Fortunately.

[sunonmars]

8. Yup thats about right

They know this and thats why Obama is now shitting himself.

With the older voter in majority there and so far Barack has performed dismally among over 40's. He's in trouble.

Thats something many do not talk about and the missing link in this whole election. Older voters always vote. The under 30's are flakey and she's carrying older voters by a mile.

The only reason Obama won Iowa was young voters and in a caucus too.

[mrmx9]

14. I think many Dems are sh*tting themselves - Hillary winning means President McCain next year!

[AX10]

17. Once people hit 40, they take politics very seriously.

These are not the kind of people who Obama can appeal to. People who take this seriously
are not looking for the "pop" candidate, but people who give real answers to real problems.

[thunder rising]

12. In a race to nowhere .. just like her campaign

[CyberPieHole]

13. There has never been a good vibe between the Latino culture and the African American culture...

Both sides tend to distrust one another...I don't think too many Latinos are going to be voting for Obama because he is black...Obama does not resonate within the Latino community...Cesar Chavez is more important to Latinos...and I don't care how much Obama tries to spin it...he's no Cesar Chavez.<IMO>

[thunder rising]

26. Unless Hillary is giviing BJ I'm not sure how she can spin it either.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

30. That's A Sexist Remark

~

[CyberPieHole]

39. Your post doesnt' make sense...please don't post while snorting powdered substances...

Obama has set a bad example.:hi:

[grantcart]

16. Hillary has peaked in California

The most recent poll has Clinton 38 and Obama 33 more importantly there is no longer any winner take all. If the recent trends continue Obama may well win the popular vote. In any case there is going to be no 'creaming' the delegate vote will be very tight all around. In New York Obama has moved from the teens to 29.

[Alexander]

18. Actually Obama's threatening her in California and New York.

It's so easy to tell when Hillary's campaign is going badly.

Her supporters spin, whine, lie, excuse and use every cheap tactic to present the image of her winning.

[bartholomewjohn]

21. Obama is not threatening in New York

Unless you call a 16% lead in one poll compared to 20+ lead in two other polls a "threat".

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. She's Winning 50% -28% In The RCP Average In NY

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ny/new_york_democratic_primary-265.html

In Cali it's 45% -33%


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ca/california_democratic_primary-259.html

[bartholomewjohn]

19. Cubans are not like all hispanics

Obama has shown willingness to ease the embargo and talk to Fidel Castro. Right-wing Cubans prefer Hillary's pandering.
Cubans represent the bulk of the Hispanic population in Florida.

[Maribelle]

24. Cubans do not represent the bulk of the Hispanic population in Florida

Where ever did you come up with that from?

[bartholomewjohn]

32. well, my definition of bulk is a plurality

and there are more cubans than any other nationality among Florida Hispanics.

[Maribelle]

43. I just ran outside, and it looks like Mexico is supplying most of them.

In all seriousness, Cubans were around 30% percent of the Hispanic population seven years ago. With the explosion of the Hispanic population in recent years, I would guess that percentage is far lower today and Mexicans outnumber them.

[Skwmom]

47. Have you ever been to South Florida, Orlando or anywhere in Florida?

[Maribelle]

49. I live on the west coast of Florida, across the state from Miami and Ft. Lauderdale.

Three and a half hours south of Orlando through the orange groves by car, watching all the Mexicans picking oranges.

Anything else you need to know?

[durrrty libby]

33. That's south Fl and many of them are republican

[aquart]

36. But feeling sharp regrets.

There is also a split between younger and older Miami Cubans. Younger ones WANT to be able to visit and contact family. They hated the extra restrictions BushCo installed.

Not a vote the Republicans can count on.

[Maribelle]

44. You mean Southeast. Across the swamp, Collier County, Lee County, they are Mexican-Americans.

Their numbers soar monthly, and they are not republicans. From around 800,000 Cubans in 2001 in the state, to perhaps well over one million from Mexico today.

[durrrty libby]

48. Yes I worked all over Dade county for several years, Strongly Cuban

[Maribelle]

20. Did you see those early voting actuals? WOW Clinton is at 72%

No wonder Obama want's to break his pledge and advertise in Florida

[sunonmars]

25. A creaming may be an understatement then

btw where did you get those figures.

[aquart]

37. They've released early vote counts?

This is totally out of hand.

[Maribelle]

50. It's a survey where some participants have already voted. n/t

[AX10]

38. Do you have a link?

I want to make sure this is true.

[Maribelle]

51. The first yellow column.....

At the link found in the OP

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=792ef...

[CyberPieHole]

42. He's already running ads in Florida...Obama breaks his pledges...

...why in the world should anyone trust him?

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/01/obama_airs_nati.html

[Hippo_Tron]

53. Did you read the article? He's running ads nationally

It is physically impossible to do that and exclude Florida. He got the okay from the South Carolina Democratic Party chair before doing so.

[aquart]

27. Ouch. BUT....

Hispanics are NOT one amorphous lump. The composition of the Hispanic population in Florida is significantly different from that of California. They may not vote the same at all. (I know a California Cuban who is sincerely sorry he gave money to Bush, but how he'll vote this time? No clue.)

I thought Obama would take the casinos. I wouldn't have the confidence to predict ANYTHING.

[1corona4u]

31. Yeah, and he has 69% of the black vote....

now someone tell me this isn't about color.....riiigghhhttt....

[MercutioATC]

40. ...which will net her exactly zero delegates...

Don't you just love the primary process?

[Skwmom]

46. The Hispanic vote is not monolithic. There are a lot of Cubans in

Florida and many of them view other Hispanic groups (for instance Mexicans and Puerto Ricans) as beneath them. Since Florida will end up in the Republican column in the general election - who cares.

[Hippo_Tron]

52. Good, when he gets elected President without them we can finally end this fucking Cuban Embargo

[CelloPaddy]

55. Oh, is Obama competing in Florida now? I thought that he wasn't, so I guess I don't understand your

point. By the same measure, would you consider Michigan a major win by your candidate?