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fernwoods Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:22 PM
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Kerry, Edwards Failed To Vote For American Workers
Kerry, Edwards Failed To Vote For American Workers

With millions of unemployed Americans looking for work, Rep. Dennis
Kucinich, D-OH, co-sponsored a bill to extend unemployment benefits.
After the bill was deadlocked by Republicans in committee, Sen.
Maria Cantwell, D-WA, attempted on Thursday to amend a bill before
the Senate to approve an extension of benefits.

The vote required a three-fifths majority to carry. Even though 11
Republicans joined Democrats in voting of the amendment, it failed
by two votes! KERRY AND EDWARDS WERE ABSENT!

Millions of unemployed Americans lost a chance for hope Thursday, as
Sens. John Kerry, D-MA and John Edwards, D-NC, missed a key vote
that could have extended benefits through June 30. The votes of
Kerry and Edwards would have tipped the scale in favor of American
workers.

Now, millions of unemployed Americans will have to wonder how –
their elected leaders having failed them again – they will have a
roof over their heads, their heating working and their lights on.
And the reason – two Democrats missing in action.

A study of 119 key Senate votes in 2003, done by Congressional
Quarterly, found Kerry missed 72 percent of the votes, while Edwards
was absent 47 percent of the time.

By contrast, on Nov. 19, 2003, CNN reported, "Kucinich has tried not
to neglect his congressional duties while campaigning for president.
He has the best attendance record for roll call votes of the five
Democratic candidates from Congress. He visits the district two to
three times a month, although that's down from his pre-presidential
campaign custom of every weekend."

Congressman Dennis Kucinich challenged Senators John Edwards and
John Kerry to save American jobs by joining him in his pledge to
cancel the North American Free Trade Agreement. Both refused.

In a national debate on CNN, on Feb 26, Kucinich renewed his pledge
to cancel NAFTA and the WTO by executive order as his first act in
office. Neither Kerry nor Edwards would commit to canceling NAFTA.
Kerry voted for NAFTA and has consistently voted for other
comparable trade agreements. Kerry and Edwards both voted for the
China trade agreement.
VOTE FOR KUCINICH!!
He is voting for you!!!
To learn more about Dennis J. Kucinich, visit www.kucinich.us or
call toll free (866) 413-3664 or (866) 4-1-Dennis"It's time to
awaken the American Dream…where Fear Ends and Hope Begins!"





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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-28-04 11:47 PM
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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:04 AM
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2. new identity?
Edited on Sun Feb-29-04 12:07 AM by twilight
I've been around on and off the past few days and I have not seen this post before.

I think this information is useful as a Kucinich supporter myself. There are things stated here that I was unaware of, like the fact that he is the one that introduced the extension of unemployment benefits.

I knew that Kerry and Edwards weren't there and it angered me. Many times Dennis Kucinich is on the job and out campaigning simultaneously. This is true.

Its rough in politics when you don't have much money. Some how Dennis Kucinich has managed to hang on.

Did the other post(s) you have seen have the same exact statement? What is dishonest about it? :shrug:

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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:25 AM
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3. And there are lies floating around in the other thread...
that Dennis didn't show up for the vote in the House.:evilfrown:
Somebody who is computer literate please straighten them out!!

Guess they have to defend their candidates' absence by attacking DK.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 02:00 AM
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9. Apparently you're referring to my post.
I did not claim that DK failed to show up for a vote on this provision, since there was no vote, to my knowledge, on this provision in the House. Nor did I attack DK, against whom I have nothing bad to say at all. I simply was pointing out that nobody can run a primary campaign and be present for all Congressional votes. You asked why, as I understood you, Kerry and Edwards couldn't show up for all votes when DK could. My response was:

Dennis can't do it either. He missed two roll call votes the same day, 2/26. As a matter of fact, the House has had 31 roll call votes this year. Kucinich has not voted once. Nobody can run for president and make every vote in Congress. How could he be in Washington for an afternoon House session, get to the airport, fly 2500 miles to Los Angeles, and be at USC at 9:00 for the debate? If you don't believe me about his not voting this year, you can check it out yourself.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2004/ROLL_000.asp

The other thread is at

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&a...

My post is number 70. Anyone interested can easily determine who's being truthful and who's not.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 02:10 AM
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10. Sorry, if I misunderstood.
Since DK was co-sponsor of this extension of benefits in the House, I knew he would be there for the vote.
I will go back and re-read the thread. It may not have been you, there was so much fur flying.

The other misperception that seems to be floating around is that if the Johns had voted for this, they would have been voting for the core bill and that the main bill was something that Democrats wouldn't vote yes on.

This is incorrect. This was a stand alone-amendment that required a vote. Democrats then would have had to make a separate decision of whether to support the main bill.

I wish we could put this unemployment extension as an amendment to EVERY bill until it passes.
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 02:20 AM
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12. That's cool. Misunderstandings happen. n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:25 AM
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4. It's not the fault of the 39 that voted against the bill?
Edited on Sun Feb-29-04 12:26 AM by Bleachers7
It's the fault of the 2 not present. Sure, makes sense.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:28 AM
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5. It's called : the straw that broke the camel's back!!
:evilgrin:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:36 AM
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:41 AM
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 12:48 AM
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8. Exactly.
A series of new du members, who without any knowledge of the others, put up the same post. Sure. Sounds real. Sounds sincere. I'm sure that Dennis K supporters would not approve of dishonest tactics. So ... where does that leave these people? As for "regardless, it is true.." please remember that our enemies will take a small piece of the truth, twist and distort it, and use a lie to try to divide the true democrats. I love Dennis K for his honest search for truth. That is separate from this effort to distort Kerry & Edwards' records.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-29-04 02:15 AM
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11. Welcome to DU, fernwoods!!
We aren't always this snarly, and we do like to welcome newbies.

So have one on me!:donut:
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