Another Clinton hack apologizes to Obama? For comments? I have had enough Clintons/Bushes Circus!

[Nimrod2005]

BET founder apologizes to Obama



http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/17/clinton.obama/index.html

[William769]

1. When any fucking person from the Obama camp apologizes for Obama about Reagan.

We'll call it even.

[Nimrod2005]

2. Many Democrats voted for Reagan TWICE!

[William769]

5. Then there not DEMOCRATS!

[Nimrod2005]

10. Whatever, silly...nt

[William769]

14. Your post was fucking hilarious!

"Many Democrats voted for Reagan TWICE!" :rofl:

[Avalux]

4. Um, what sort of comparison are you trying to draw here?

Who should an apology about Reagan (there was no insult) be addressed to - you?

[William769]

8. Reagan is an insult to the human race

And Obama is an insult to the Democratic party.

[Nimrod2005]

12. Grow up...Please.

[Avalux]

34. You are too much!

:spray:

[Nimrod2005]

11. lol...

[Renew Deal]

7. He should apologize for being right?

I think you should apologize for misleading people on Obama.

[William769]

9. If only he were right.

[TwilightGardener]

3. Best part--she LIED about the fact that he'd already publicly acknowledged

his remarks were over the top. Uh, I guess the next day she called Johnson and said "Don't make a liar out of me"--bwahahahaa!

[Tom Rinaldo]

6. Well I'm still waiting for Obama's supporters to apologize...

...for airing a spanish language radio ad in Nevada that starts out by saying "Hillary Clinton doesn't respect our people". Obama's official spokesperson not only refused to be critical of it, he turned a question about it into another opportunity to attack Clinton.

[MADem]

13. "Our people?"

Hmmm. Without knowing the context, it's impossible to say, but that has the potential of going over like a very leaden balloon!

[Cameron27]

15. Yes,

that ad is disgusting and should be condemned.

Tom The LA Vegas Sun just endorsed Clinton!

Interesting comment:

"As we see it, the only obstacle in Clinton’s way in Nevada is the unfair caucus system that has been set up, specifically the rule that allows on-site voting at casino workplaces on the Strip. Not only is it unfair because it isn’t an option for noncasino workers who can’t get away from work, but it also enables the Culinary Union, which has endorsed Obama, to pressure its members into voting for their union’s endorsed candidate even if they prefer Clinton."

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/18/e-endorse/

[sandnsea]

19. Greenspuns are Clinton friends

Anything they have to say on this matter is highly suspect.

[Cameron27]

21. Anything that's turns out to be pro

Clinton is highly suspect to you. It's a great endorsement, and I'm very glad that she got it.

[sandnsea]

28. People have the right to know the connections n/t

[Tom Rinaldo]

23. Here is the ad translated. No spin

UNITE HERE Negative Ad
(Translation)
Hillary Clinton does not respect our people. Hillary Clinton supporters went to court to prevent working people to vote this Saturday — that is an embarrassment.

Hillary Clinton supporters want to prevent people from voting in their workplace on Saturday. This is unforgivable. Hillary Clinton is shameless. Hillary Clinton should not allow her friends to attack our people’s right to vote this Saturday. This is unforgivable; there’s no respect

Sen. Obama is defending our right to vote. Sen. Obama wants our votes. He respects our votes, our community, and our people.

Sen. Obama’s campaign slogan is “Si Se Puede” (“Yes We Can”). Vote for a president that respects us, and that respects our right to vote. Obama for president, “Si Se Puede” (“Yes We Can”).

[sandnsea]

27. I'm referring to the spin against the at-large caucuses

It's been dismissed as bullshit by so many people at all levels of the Democratic Party that it's stunning to me any Democrat would continue to defend it. The Greenspuns are Republicans.

[Tom Rinaldo]

29. OK, I accept that as a valid point to argue. n/t

[hedgehog]

16. I think the ad is accurate - Clinton respected those voters only as long as she

thought they were going to vote for her. If the lawsuit had been successful, how many of those workers would have been able to caucus?

BTW - I've yet to hear a coherent explanation about how this prevents other people from caucusing in their residential precincts.

[Nimrod2005]

17. And, the master con artist, master manipulator cried when she knew

she would not be getting votes!!! Talk about pathetic!

[Cameron27]

31. You're pathetic

and it shows when you make comments like that. I wish you'd talk about it in front of a large audience, you'd bring in a ton of votes for my candidate.

[leftynyc]

32. If you think exploiting racism is the way to

get the Dems into the White House, it may be time for me to switch to independent.

[sandnsea]

20. The racial part was a bit much though

If they hadn't done that, the ad would have been acceptable.

[hedgehog]

22. How many of the people involved are Spanish speakers?

Also, was similar ad aimed at English speaking casino workers run?

[Tom Rinaldo]

24. I agree with you. It was fair for them to attack Clinton

Even though Clinton herself had no formal role in that lawsuit, in politics she was close enough to those who did to be targetted by those who feel it was an unjust law suit. If the ad had focused on alleged voter disenfranchisement specifically rather than the vague repeated references to "disrespect" for "our people" and "our community", I would have considered it within bounds for a negative ad.

[Tom Rinaldo]

25. Anyone who thinks that a spanish language ad that begins with:

"Hillary Clinton doesn't respect our people" is referring only to Union members being disenfranchised better be gullable enough to believe that the quote from Bob Johnson...

"when Barack Obama was doing something in the neighborhood; I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in his book"

...was always intended to be about Obama's community organizing.


There are multiple efforts to blur the line between union members and hispanics as a people in that ad, including one line that says Hillary "doesn't respect our community" for one obvious example, but there are more.

[niceypoo]

18. Black entertainment are Clinton Hacks?

LOL. Obama supporters are such hypersensitive crybabies.

[ellacott]

30. Are you saying that he isn't?

[leftynyc]

33. Just imagine when the pubs get a hold of

Obama in the general election. I give it a week before they're hiding under their desks in the fetal position.

[ellacott]

35. What's funny is that you assume he has no fight in him

I do believe there will be many Dems gloating if/when this does happen.

[leftynyc]

36. I'm not speaking of Obama who

I pray has fight in him. I'm speaking of his supporters/surrogates who whine about everything.

[ellacott]

37. I guess the same can be asked about Clinton surrogates and supporters

As much as they throw out accusations of sexism........

[leftynyc]

38. You'll have to point me to that

on this board. If you look over my posts, you'd see I have called out both Clinton and Obama supporters. This circular firing squad has got to stop.

[ellacott]

39. It will never happen

[pampango]

26. Even apologies from one side to another become fodder for accusations

nowadays here.

The "offended" side will say that the apology is delayed, insincere, and/or forced; that the "offending" side is continuing their attacks as before, so nothing has really changed; and that the apology proves that the offense was indeed outrageous and a sign of the other side's dirty politics.

The "offending" side will say that at least they apologize for their mistakes, why doesn't your side do the same; and their side is trying to maintain a positive campaign and correcting their mistakes.

In this case it was a Clinton supporter apologizing to the Obama campaign, but it happens just as often in the other camps.

[Nimrod2005]

40. You are right, very sad to watch!