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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:59 AM
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Obama does have three things in common with Reagan
the appeal to communicate charisma and both are great orators. I respect a candidate for being honest to say something like Obama said when he probably knew he would get bashed by fellow Dem's. Shit Clinton said good things about Reagan where was all the flack then. OH I FORGOT ITS CLINTON THEY CAN SAY ANYTHING an get away with it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:06 AM
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1. Aye!
There is a lot in that 50 minute interview to discuss, but folks have chosen only to take their soundbyte "Obama loved Reagan" and run with it as fast as they can and milk for all that it is worth.

Stupid exercise, if you ask me.

And you are right. He tells a truth that is not welcomed...and he says that all the time, "I'm not going to tell you what you want to hear, we need someone that will tell you what you need to hear". Hell, its in one of his commercial!

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:10 AM
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2. Clinton said it when Reagan died. That is what former presidents with class do when another dies
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 05:11 AM by jackson_dem
They do have the charisma and oratorical skill things in common. They also have another more ugly thing in common. Reagan had http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/19/opinion/19krugman.html?_r=1&oref=slogin . Obama has http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dUp16hFzY8
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:21 AM
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3. Honesty? Raygun was The Great Prevaricator
The man constantly told lies all thru his term is office. Iran-Contra was the height of his mendacity.

Maybe some people thought all of it was funny but I found about 99% of everything Raygun said to be highly insulting. Trees pollute more than cars? The welfare queen in Chicago? Nicaragua invading Texas?

Raygun's greatest failure was his refusal to disarm. Gorbachev offered to disarm the Soviet Union's nuclear arsenals at the Iceland summit, if the US would do the same. Raygun flat out refused to do it. I remember this very well.

Raygun wanted Star Wars and a bloated military budget not because it made any sense or logic to him, this man never operated with a functional, thinking brain, but Raygun did it because he was a puppet and a shill for the military-industrial complex all his life, he was doing their bidding like the mindless automaton he was.



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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:24 AM
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4. best political discussion post of the day.... n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:28 AM
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5. OP wasn't talking about Reagan being honest.....
He was talking about Obama being honest.
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FredScuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:03 AM
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9. Honest? You mean like his "honesty" about the McClurklin debacle?
"He wasn't vetted properly". :rofl:

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:21 AM
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6. he was doing their bidding like the mindless automaton he was
well put
And now we have cheney--his illegitimate off spring
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ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:01 PM
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13. And Vietnam was a 'noble cause'
according to Raygun.

I was never in combat but anytime someone tries to resurrect the memory of this idiot-loser in office, I start to have some serious civilian PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder).

If Obama wants the rightwing 'cracker' vote that bad, by trying to put Raygun on some kind of lofty pedestal and worship him just so he can get the repugs to support him in the GE, that's fine but IMHO this cure is worse than the disease, he is going to lose more support than gain it, and I'll bail out on this candidate before he gets it into 2nd or 3rd gear.

This is a bad reaction for me, I hope he gets off this Raygun tangent ASAP because he's sure making Hillary and JE look better and better all the time.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:39 AM
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7. I think they both makes one feel good being an Am.
I frankly finally left the GOP when RR ran but I could see and hear what others were saying. He made people feel good as Obama does and also makes one think that we can do some thing with our govt. I saw RR as a hang on from old times and wanting to get govt. out of being a service. I do not see this at all on how Obama talks and Obama seems to be very open in his thinking. RR seemed to belong back in the dark ages even if he made people feel good.
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codeindigo Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:47 AM
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8. His campaign on "judgment" just came into "judgement!"..
i will no longer consider bho for pous.. he has show consistent hypocrical..contradictionary statements as of late. he is starting to scare me! you sould heard the dinner conversation last nite!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:05 AM
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10. What fucking Charisma did Reagan have
other than the circle jerk of the filthy rich who loved the idea of destroying the middle class?

Or perhaps the Saddam Hussein people admire the Charisma of Reagan since he was getting free weapons from our government.

That Charisma is nothing more than smoke and mirrors.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:34 AM
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11. Reagan a great orator?
Let's just say he could read a script and bob his head at the same time. That's considered genius in Repug country.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:41 AM
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12. You forgot one.
Reagan had his Falwell, Obama has his MCclurkin.
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 05:01 PM
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14. They are both actors?..
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