How many outraged with Kerry’s on gay marriage support Dean or Edwards on

[MurikanDemocrat]

gay marriage?

Edit: 6 part post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x409588
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[sangha]

1. This won't get many takers

It will make their hypocrisy too explcit. Dean has NEVER done anything to support gay marriage

[MurikanDemocrat]

5. Lack of participation in this poll is very revealing

in that it either reveals the hypocrisy or the fact that people do not understand the positions are essentially the same.

[arewethereyet]

6. or that they are minor issues

that only hurt the party

[MurikanDemocrat]

7. *sigh*

I take it you are not gay or concerned with civil rights so it's not a matter that concerns YOU.

Honestly, one does not have to be gay to see that equal rights is not a minor issue.

[maxanne]

9. or maybe everyone is sick of

[mrgorth]

14. I'll answer

I'm a Dean supporter that is fine with all of their opinions. WE can't let this issue hurt us. Get in first, work on it later.

[CTLawGuy]

15. Kerry supports ban on gay marriage

Dean does not.

Dean does not PERSONALLY favor gay marriage, but he does not want to ban the option.

[tryanhas]

2. I could really care less about the issue...

...for the most part.

[HFishbine]

3. That means you have some degree of care

When one doesn't have any concern, one would say that one couldn't care less.

[MurikanDemocrat]

4. Interesting, because Deans and Edwards positions are the exact same.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x409661

[dsc]

8. I voted for your first option

and there is a huge difference. Kerry is telling us to give back a court victory we won. The status quo in Massachusetts is marriage, not non marriage. Dean did no such thing. In addition Kerry is telling us to give it back for all time. Dean didn't. Those are big differences. To say they aren't is pure denial.

[MurikanDemocrat]

10. Oh really? Dean position on gay marriage ....

Where did Dean stand on gay rights and civil unions BEFORE the Vermont court decision in Dec 2000?:

snip from 12/20/2000

"Early assumptions following the Court’s December 20 decision were that domestic partnership is the only real plan of action. Governor Howard Dean has said on several occasions that he would support domestic partnership legislation, but is uncomfortable with the idea of actual gay marriage. Dean has recently clarified his position, declaring in a radio interview, “I’m against gay marriage.” "


http://www.mountainpridemedia.org/feb2000/news_centerstage.htm

snip

In the interview the Governor stated, "Since nothing is going to happen on this issue in the legislature until the court speaks there's no particular reason for me to take a public position on it." His attempt to link whether he makes his positions public to the actions of other branches of government is illogical and insulting. Failing any sense of responsibility on his part, the insistence of OITM and its readers' voting power should give him the "particular reason" he needs to decide to make his position public. Would environmental groups accept a refusal to take a position on clearcutting, NARAL a demur from supporting or opposing abortion, or even Wall Street a "no opinion yet" on capital gains taxes?

Clearly, Dean is either still waiting for the polling data to tell him his position, or he's seen it, and knows you wouldn't like it. But on an issue of fundamental civil rights, shouldn't "no position" or "secret position" be just as bad as the wrong position? The Governor is either with the GLBT community or he's against it. So far, he sure isn't with it.

More: http://www.mountainpridemedia.org/jul98/deanoped.htm



Where did Dean stand on gay marriage AFTER the court decision?:
“The Legislature will pass a domestic partnership bill and I’m comfortable with that,” Gov. Howard Dean said.

What was more interesting was what he was not comfortable with.

“It makes me uncomfortable, the same as anybody else,” Dean said of gay marriage. “The 4,000-year-old tradition of heterosexual marriage being an institution is something I think you have to respect. I think there are a lot of people in this state who are uncomfortable about the concept of gay marriage.”

There are thousands more who are not uncomfortable and at least some legislative leaders said they would be willing to consider enacting a marriage statute.

More: http://www.mountainpridemedia.org/jan2000/news_scyes.htm

[MurikanDemocrat]

11. kick for the day crew

[DrFunkenstein]

12. This Is Still Annoying

You are pushing out other posts. Make your point and stop acting like a troll.

[MurikanDemocrat]

13. You have a hide thread feature. Use it

Or put me on Ignore

[DrFunkenstein]

19. Thanks For The Tip

I forgot.

[Hav]

16. hey

almost all threads are on page 1 again ! Isn't that queer?
Great way to start a gay day though!

[AntiCoup2K4]

17. I'm beginning to think MD is really Pat Robertson

.....given his obsession with gay marriage threads.

[Hav]

18. hm

Why do so many think that MD (I like that abbreviation) is male ?
Maybe because of that really manly avatar?
So I tried to find out who that guy on the avatar really is...guess what... the faker MD is posing as John Kerry !

[guajira]

20. I am Outraged with Kerry's Stand on Gay Marriage and I Support

Kucinich's stand on gay marriage - in other words, gays should have the same rights to marry as I had to marry 3 times! (Now I prefer to be single!!!)

[Young Socialist]

21. this is a minor issue to

the mainstream and if we keep rubing their noses in it then it will come back to bite us big time. our only saving grace right now is that the religius right is too tied up in pedophile priest scandals.

[MurikanDemocrat]

22. LOL!