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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:18 PM
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This is the problem I have with Kerry...

I can't think of a thing I haven't already thought of or expressed before. Maybe when Kerry is in the White House with his wife who I just found out today used to be a Republican. As a matter of fact, she used to work for the elder Bush whom (atleast according to her) is better than his son. I'm sure all the Kerry fans in here (including me - I can't stop talking about the man and his mission) already knew all about this.

I have no problem with it really. What she said during her interview today on NPR was very well said. She reminds me of Arianna Huffington whom used to be a repug also. They both have a passionate way of expression that interestingly enough seems to be contagious with former rethugs.

I wonder why?

Just remember, don't let anyone tell you what to think,

d


(for Dean)



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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:21 PM
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1. aww
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:21 PM
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3. rofl....thanks Dookus
That's exactly what I thought. :hi:
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:24 PM
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6. Imma stealin' that pic
:hi:

 
 
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:29 PM
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13. rotfl
I just can't stop laughing.
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:21 PM
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2. Kerry is already the most liberal likely nominee ever, except McGovern
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:22 PM
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4. His wife isn't running
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:23 PM
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5. The problem I have with Kerry...
is for some reason he is not attacking Bush or even bringing up the fact that Bush and Cheney and the rest of the thugs lied to us about WMD. He has completely ignored this issue lately? Why? It seems like he could use Bush's lie as an excuse for voting on the war.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:25 PM
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7. Maybe he's saving some ammo for later.
Right now he's focusing on lost jobs, vet benefits, etc. The bread and butter issues.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:28 PM
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12. Maybe, but....
Kerry is being attacked by the right for voting for the war and now talking against it. Kerry could easily say that when Bush and his thugs showed him the intelligence he had no other way to go but to vote for the war. But had I known then what I know now....that there were no WMD and that Bush lied....I would have not voted for the war. He can tell the media that he was fooled. Why has he not used this strategy. All he says is that Bush went into Iraq the wrong way. WTF?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:33 PM
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16. I don't think saying he was 'fooled' is a good idea
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 11:34 PM by madmax
for someone running for President. He should stick to the fact that bush was suppose to go to the UN and build a coalition - more or less what his poppy did during Iraq I.

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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:36 PM
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17. Kerry....
could very easily say that when the president of the united states comes to me and other senators and tells us that Iraq could destroy our country in 45 minutes I give the president the benefit of the doubt and will give him the power to defend our country. But now that I know it was all a lie, I feel like I and the other senators were fooled and misled. President Bush lied to me and he must be held accountable. I voted for a war because I was lied too.

What is so wrong with that?
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:39 PM
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18. Well..
Clark won't shut up about it, so he can help to keep that issue on the burner, when he stumps for him.

The problem is, this still isn't playing that large with the voting public, as an issue, if you believe the polls. Kerry may be tailoring his message to the voters he needs, right now.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:41 PM
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19. As much as I love the General....
he is not exactly in the news right now....
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:45 PM
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22. No, but it associates Kerry and the Dems
with the issue when any of them speak about it. On the stump, anywhere. It's important that people don't forget.

As I said, Kerry will talk about the issues that are important to voters, now. When the GE campaign starts, and Bush starts up his Iraq and National Security offensive, he can bring all that shit back up.

 
 
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:42 PM
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20. I agree with you - most people
still aren't focused on the elections. They won't tune in until sometime in August or if they lose their job. Which ever comes first.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:27 PM
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10. "he's not attacking Bush"
I'm going to give you an opportunity to clarify that.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:30 PM
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15. He is not attacking Bush through his speeches and debates....
for misleading the country and congress regarding the threat from Iraq's WMD. He has been silent on this issue...even today during his foreign relations speech he never mentioned it. What is that all about?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:43 PM
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21. 2/24
Right now, he's on the jobs tour. Specifically because Edwards is running on jobs. But this statement was just 3 days ago, he hasn't stopped his attack on Bush on anything.

Here's a new ad as well, http://www.johnkerry.com/videos/console.php?video=022704_word

Statement from John Kerry Regarding President Bush’s Speech
The following statement was issued by John Kerry after President Bush’s speech tonight at the Republican Governor’s Association fundraiser:

February 24, 2004

For Immediate Release
New York, NY –

“President Bush gave his speech tonight as if the past three and a half years never happened. But the American people haven't forgotten this President's failed record, because they have to live with it everyday. George Bush's credibility is running out with the American people. They want change in America, and I'm running because I am determined to bring that change and put America back on track.”

Rebuttal: Bush By Bush's Standards
Tonight in front of Republican Governors, Bush characterized his administration as "STEADY LEADERSHIP IN A TIME OF CHANGE.” But the very areas he highlights as successes illustrate how far backwards he has taken America. How can we believe his new promises when he’s failed so miserably to keep his word for the past four years.

Bush Said His Administration is: "Moving the Economy Forward"

Tonight Bush said he is responsible for “tax relief that is moving economy forward.”

U.S. has lost THREE MILLION jobs since Bush came into office. Bush is also responsible for a record $304 billion deficit.
Bush Promised He'd Create 2.6 Million Jobs This Year, Then He Changed his Mind a Few Weeks Later

“Bush's economic team has said his programs will create 2.6 million jobs this year. It's a goal economists say will be difficult to achieve.”
“The Bush administration is overly upbeat in predicting that 2.6 million new jobs will be created this year, private economists say. It is a hurdle that would require the administration, in just one year, to replace all of the jobs that have been lost in the three years since President George W. Bush took office. ‘The job machine would have to rev up very, very quickly - it's got to be almost supercharged at some point during the year’ to do that well, said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Economy.com.”
“Thursday's report also showed that the number of unemployed people collecting jobless benefits for more than a week rose by 106,000 to 3.2 million for the week ending Feb. 7, the most recent period for which that information is available. This suggests that jobs are still hard to find for some workers. The report comes as recent Bush administration comments about the job climate touched a political nerve and raise questions about the White House's economic grasp. President Bush on Wednesday distanced himself from an earlier prediction by his economic advisors that that the economy would add 2.6 million new jobs this year.”
Bush Said His Administration is: “Winning war terror”

Bush Giving Up on bin Laden

President Bush: I have no idea whether we will capture or bring to justice, may be the best way to put it.”
Tonight Bush said he should be re-elected because his is “extending peace and freedom.”

Friday Bush Administration Admitted Their Interim Iraq Plan is Not Working

“The Bush administration acknowledged on Friday that its ambitious plan to transfer sovereignty directly to a democratically elected government in Iraq was unlikely to succeed, after Iraqis insisted on elections untainted by U.S. influence. White House spokesman Scott McClellan said the administration's initial plan for an interim, democratically elected government through a complicated series of 18 regional caucuses had failed to pass muster with Iraqi leaders.”
Tonight Bush said, “In Iraq, my administration looked at the intelligence, and saw a danger.”

Bush Conceded His Argument for War was Wrong
Mr. Russert: The night you took the country to war, March 17th, you said this: “Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised.”
President Bush: Right.
Mr. Russert: That apparently is not the case.
President Bush: Correct.
Mr. Russert: How do you respond to critics who say that you brought the nation to war under false pretenses
President Bush: “...I made a decision based upon that intelligence in the context of the war against terror. In other words, we were attacked, and therefore every threat had to be reanalyzed. Every threat had to be looked at. Every potential harm to America had to be judged in the context of this war on terror.”
Bush Made Assertions About WMD BEFORE Report Completed: Tenet Said Administration Ignored Caveats and Qualifiers. “In its fall 2002 campaign to win congressional support for a war against Iraq, President Bush and his top advisers ignored many of the caveats and qualifiers included in the classified report on Saddam Hussein's weapons that CIA Director George J. Tenet defended Thursday. In fact, they made some of their most unequivocal assertions about unconventional weapons before the October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) was completed.”
Bush Said Iraq Threat of “Unique Urgency” Though Report Did Not Draw That Conclusion. ”Iraq "is a grave and gathering danger," Bush told the United Nations on Sept. 12, 2002. At the White House two weeks later -- after referring to a British government report that Iraq could launch "a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order" is given -- he went on to say, "Each passing day could be the one on which the Iraqi regime gives anthrax or VX -- nerve gas -- or someday a nuclear weapon to a terrorist ally.’ Three weeks later, on the day the NIE was delivered to Congress, Bush told lawmakers in the White House Rose Garden that Iraq's current course was "a threat of unique urgency."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0223j.html
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:58 PM
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25. He was not on the jobs tour today....
during his foreign relations speech and never mentioned WMD!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:26 PM
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8. "the" problem
Like if we deal with just this one problem, you'll be all ready to go for Kerry?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:26 PM
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9. Screw them!
I'm a middle class female who knows what to think!

This is disgusting.

Everybody wants a face lift and the taking over of America. This really makes me want to vomit.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:28 PM
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11. John Kerry would probably promote democratic party causes if elected
the problem is that if he's nominated the scales are tipped way in favor of Bush in both the popular vote and even more the electoral college.

His personality is just not what you want, and neither is his biography, and those are in-friggin-portant
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:30 PM
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14. They waaaaaant Dean
Don't even kid yourself.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:46 PM
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23. sure he has his problems but do they matter he is just so gosh darn
presidential
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AmyStrange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 11:51 PM
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24. What's wrong with his wife being a former repub?
Edited on Fri Feb-27-04 11:52 PM by AmyStrange
Did I say something wrong? She has spent a lot of money on her social ideals and was quite an articulate and compassionate speaker. I thought it was quite interesting that she liked the elder better than Dubya.

I kinda figured you folks already knew about this, but I didn't think it would get this kind of reaction. My post was in no way negative to the ABB cause? Isn't that the program? Get everybody on board voting for Kerry in Nov.

I liked Kerry's wife. She kind of inspired me,

what is wrong with you people?

d

(EDIT: likes - liked)
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