Obama: It Took Men to Give Women the Vote (warning! satire!)

[2rth2pwr]

Caution!
by Scott Ott

(2008-01-14) — Democrat Sen. Barack Obama today seemed to indirectly respond to presidential rival Sen. Hillary Clinton’s suggestion that Martin Luther King’s dream would have gone unfulfilled if not for President Lyndon B. Johnson who signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Sen. Clinton’s comment was meant to contrast her vast record of accomplishment and political prowess, with Sen. Obama’s mere rhetorical skills and inspirational persona, but the rookie Senator offered an analogy of his own.

“The 19th Amendment to the Constitution grants women the right to vote,” said Sen. Obama, “and while women, like Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton, marched, and spoke and held inspirational rallies, ultimately it took men in 36 state legislatures to fulfill that dream.”

“Now, I would not suggest,” the former Illinois state legislator added, “that it takes a man to really make change in this country, nor even that it takes someone with experience in a state legislature. I’m just sayin’.”

Sen. Clinton refused to respond directly, but the campaign release a statement in which she said: “I have nothing but respect for Barack Obama, especially because he’s currently the only African American in the U.S. Senate. I’ll do whatever it takes to help him retain that distinction.”

(LOL- It's Satire) http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=2858

[ecstatic]

1. Then, Edwards chimed in... "Eh hem... It took a WHITE man..." nt

[cali]

2. i wish people wouldn't post right wing crap here

and it doesn't come anymore wingnut than scrappleface.

[jasmine621]

3. In many ways, Obama just proved HC's MLK statement. nt

[Occam Bandage]

5. It's satire.

[Cha]

13. That went right over

your head.

[Occam Bandage]

4. Okay. That's hilarious.

[meow2u3]

6. There goes women's support of Obama

He really put his foot in his mouth with that sexist crap!

[earthlover]

16. Sexist? You are nuts!

Clinton said it took a (white)president to pass what Martin Luther King spoke and held rallies about. That's how dismissive Clinton was towards Martin Luther King's contributions to the fight.

Well, I will clue in to something you may have never heard about. It is called an analogy! And perhaps some irony, satire, sarcasm thrown in. Hillary saying this about king is the same as saying the contributions of the women who gave speeches and held rallies for the vote were insignificant compared to the (male) legislatures who ratified the amendment.

There is nothing sexist at all. Obviously...at least to anyone actually above the verbal acuity of a doughnut...Obama supports both the woman's vote and the civil rights act. I guess only a hillary supporter could be drunk on enough kool aid not to even notice the obvious.

[NYCGirl]

20. Hey, Einstein. It's a joke. Obama never said it. Read the thread. NT

[TankLV]

28. god - some people just want to argue...

that was really funny - the OP...too bad it misses the intention of what Hillary was saying...

[jefferson_dem]

7. Nevermind.

;)

[calteacherguy]

8. K&R. That's a great analogy. nt

[Drunken Irishman]

9. I'd put the satire part in the headline.

Cause I know a lot of DUers will just read the first few sentences and become unglued to the point where they type out a heated message before reading the entire thing.

[2rth2pwr]

18. Thanks. nt.

[Captain Hilts]

10. Well, it's true. I've been doing research about the Nat'l Woman's Party...

and it's all about lobbying MEN.

[VotesForWomen]

36. correct. the statement itself is not sexist, and it even refers specifically to gender; HRC's didn't

refer specifically to race. i suppose someone could have interpreted it as a racial insult against MLK, but there are certainly other more probable explanations.

[Captain Hilts]

39. It's a way of saying "it matters who's in the White House." nt

[OzarkDem]

11. Hmm, a right wing blog

thanks, but no thanks.

[Bonobo]

12. You made my growing list of people who exist merely to be jerks. Bye asshat.

[xchrom]

14. ...

:spray:

[featherman]

15. Why is a RW satire piece posted on a Dem board?

Just want to raise the anger and misunderstanding level even more? What's the purpose here?

[Sulawesi]

40. because it's funny?

[2rth2pwr]

17. Mods: if this is inappropriate remove and I will apologize.

It made me laugh, thought other people would be able to laugh.

[Infinite Hope]

19. In the words of Larry the Cable Guy: "I don't care you ya're, that's funny raht dere."

n/t

[OzarkDem]

21. Obama & Clinton have called a truce, have you?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4068187

[indimuse]

22. Obama ...

has a "smart ass" streak..this is not the first time I've notice this..."You're like able enough Hillary."...nuf said.

[NYCGirl]

23. What part of "It's satire" didn't you understand? NT

[suston96]

24. It might have been intended as satire but it's all true.

The US Congress, virtually all male, passed what became the Nineteenth Amendment. The 36 state legislatures, virtually all male, ratified the amendment.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

The 19th amendment was specifically intended to extend suffrage to women. It was proposed on June 4, 1919 and ratified on August 18, 1920.

The amendment was the culmination of the work of many activists in favor of women's suffrage. One such group called the Silent Sentinels protested in front of the White House for 18 months starting in 1917 to raise awareness of the issue.

On January 9, 1918, President Woodrow Wilson announced his support of the amendment. The next day, the House of Representatives narrowly passed the amendment but the Senate refused to even debate it until October. When the Senate voted on the amendment in October, it failed by three votes.

In response, the National Woman's Party urged citizens to vote against anti-suffrage senators up for election in the fall of 1918. After the 1918 election, most members of Congress were pro-suffrage. On May 21, 1919, the House of Representatives passed the amendment by a vote of 304 to 89, and 2 weeks later on June 4, the Senate finally followed, where the amendment passed by a vote of 56 to 25.<1>

It was ratified on August 18, 1920, upon its ratification by Tennessee, the thirty-sixth state to do so. Secretary of State Bainbridge Colby certified the ratification on August 26, 1920.

Rent the excellent HBO movie: "Iron Jawed Angels" that tells the story very accurately.

[dkf]

26. Exactly what Hillary says.

So you think she would defend this statement too?

[LeFleur1]

29. Would Hillary Defend the statement?

It's true for God's sake. There were no women in Congress at the time, you see, because they couldn't be there. The men voted and the States okayed it.
Satire? It's a fact.

Yes women marched, talked, wrote, convinced. But the men in Congress and the men who voted to add the amendment made it possible.

It took them awhile, but they finally got it right.

[dkf]

32. Ha ha. Hillary is the ultimate feminist. She would never say that

I would love it if someone would pose the question to her.

[VotesForWomen]

37. uh, i'm a pretty big feminist, and the statement is true. now there are other ways women could have

gotten the vote; perhaps they could have waged a civil war and not surrendered until men agreed to stop denying their rights; they could have seceded or left the country and moved to some woman-only territory, or whatever, but the way it actually happened is that MEN voted in the US congress and ratified the amendment and that was that. (of course it would have been nice if MEN had not refused to allow women their rights in the first place.) by the same token, presidents, congress-people, and judges have enacted/enforced/interpreted other civil rights legislation.

[AGirl]

30. Hillary didn't describe Dr. King as "black"

or the president as "white"

[dkf]

25. Yeah see how offensive Hillary was?

Even a satire of fake stuff put into Obama's mouth that is a direct correlation to Hillary's comments makes everyone feel ill.

[AGirl]

31. no, its not the same. Hillary did called Dr. King as a black man

or the president as a white man

[Texas_Kat]

34. Not at all.... it happens to be true

You've really defined the problem .... getting upset and screaming epithets because you don't care for the facts of history is not in anyone's interest.

[DLnyc]

27. Rove's job: get the voting public fighting and hating each other.

Apparently, from responses here to SATIRE, world's easiest job.

[mrdemocrat78]

33. that's just too funny

and, if it's true, is a great way to poke back at her. Everyone would know he was joking, and it just makes hilldog look like a fool.

[David Zephyr]

35. Great satire because it has such a ring of truth behind it. Thanks for the post.

LOL!

[VotesForWomen]

38. you're right; the statement was true; it's a matter of historical record. nt