Re: Tonight's Debate

[Indiana_Dem]

No environmental, energy, peak oil discussion....whynot?

[revcarol]

1. Because Dennis would have had the floor.

20% energy indpendence by 2010.

Cain't let Dennis speak.

[Old and In the Way]

8. A little more aggressive timetable, but they share the same idea.

From Kerry's site:

John Kerry has outlined a comprehensive energy plan that will tap America’s initiative and ingenuity to strengthen our national security, grow our economy, and protect our environment. Kerry’s plan will increase and enhance domestic energy sources and provide incentives to help Americans use energy more cleanly and efficiently. When sixty-five percent of the world’s oil reserves lie beneath the Persian Gulf states and only 3 percent lie beneath America, we cannot drill our way to independence. We can, however, develop and deploy clean energy technologies that will make us more efficient and allow us to capitalize on domestic and renewable sources of energy. John Kerry’s plan for a renewable energy trust fund to invest in the development of renewable energy will reduce our oil dependence by more than 2 million barrels of oil a day – about the same amount we import from the Persian Gulf. Kerry’s plan will also create 500,000 new jobs over the next decade and work toward producing 20 percent of US energy from renewable fuels by 2020.

[Indiana_Dem]

13. I think by 2020 we'll need more than 20% but

its a good start in the dialogue.

[MrSoundAndVision]

2. Well I didn't see it but....

does the moderator have a vested interest in the avoidance of those issues? YES! If we don't elevate the discussion we can't win, Dennis Kucinich for President!

[Wonk]

12. mp3 here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x5668

[DebJ]

3. website rating Congress environmental votes....look at Kerry....and also

look at Kerry compared to the other reps in his state. Wow!
Not good at all.

http.//www.capwiz.com/lcv/dbq/vote_info

I just moved from Maryland to Pa last year. Maryland's record is pretty good....but then, the Chesapeake Bay is our greatest treasure.
Pennsylvanian's don't seem to give a damn.

[revcarol]

6. Kerry used to be great. Now just like his other positions, wishy-washy, or

flip-flop whatever you want to call it. So if you look up his conservation record, it's good. However little things, like still voting for free trade even though it devastates other nations' environments, and wanting to get the oil of other nations by invasion...

[corporatewhore]

14. you can also see you cant be pro environment and pro free trade

http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/wto/FTAAWTOEnvironment.html

[question everything]

4. Because wasting precious time on gay marriage was juicier

especially for California. I do hope that this issue will not define the elections. Sure, gays have rights like everyone else, but the issues are so complex: marriage, wedding, role of state, etc., that concentrating on this - to the delight of the pubs, I would think - can actually cost us the elections.

[Indiana_Dem]

5. I want to add other than jobs and healthcare,

these issues should have been discussed more than any other....the issues above I brought up would take care of jobs, eliminate need for wars for global oil control and more!!! I just don't understand it.

[TheDonkey]

7. You didn't hear Kerry mention how enviroment needs to be on the table 10x

at least. He talked about his fight for the enviroment and how he wants to continue to fight for it.

[Indiana_Dem]

10. Yes, I've heard Kerry and DK talk of the issues

before but I'm just wondering why Larry King or the others didn't have more questions.....you would think they would've touched on it more.

[IrishBloodEngHeart]

9. because Larry King wanted to spend an hour talking about gay marriage

he is totally out of touch. Guess what Larry, if you don't have a job, you care more about finding a job than whether two gay people get married or not.

Get a clue.

[Indiana_Dem]

11. I could definitely see they were having a good time with

the gay issue. Stupid, stupid, stupid.