The Clintons attempt to suppress the vote in Nevada....Where is the outrage?

[elizm]

Can't wait to see how the Hillary supporters defend this one. Suppressing the vote....Just how low can they go?

Teachers Sue to Block Hotel Workers’ Union Vote in Nevada Caucus
By STEVE FRIESS
LAS VEGAS — Nevada’s state teachers union and six Las Vegas area residents filed a lawsuit late Friday that could make it harder for many members of the state’s huge hotel workers union to vote in the hotly contested Jan. 19 Democratic caucus in Nevada.

The 13-page lawsuit in federal district court here comes two days after the 60,000-member Culinary Workers Union Local 226 in Nevada endorsed Senator Barack Obama, a blow to Mrs. Clinton. Mr. Obama addressed the Culinary Union at their hall earlier Friday.

The lawsuit argues that the Nevada Democratic Party’s decision, decided late last year, to create at-large precincts inside nine Las Vegas resorts on caucus day violates the state’s election laws and creates a system in which voters at the at-large precincts can elect more delegates than voters at other precincts. The lawsuit employs a complex mathematical formula to show that voters at the other 1,754 precincts would have less influence with their votes.

The at-large precincts are being established because thousands of hotel workers cannot leave work to participate in the midday caucuses in their home precincts...


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/12/us/politics/12nevada.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print

[MethuenProgressive]

1. The SwiftBoating of Clinton continues

"it is unclear whether there are ties between the lawsuit and the Clinton campaign"
Didn't think anyone would click the link, did you?

[Joe the Revelator]

6. Is this the first time you've followed a poltical campaign?

This is quite obviously tied to Hillary.

[MethuenProgressive]

15. "This is quite obviously tied to Hillary." Not according to the OP.

which clearly said:
"it is unclear whether there are ties between the lawsuit and the Clinton campaign"

Only someone reading with prejudice could see "unclear" and hear "obviously"

[Joe the Revelator]

18. They're hedging their bets

Because there isn't explicit, kick you in the face, proof, but anyone who has an ounce of political knowledge can see what is going on.

[DaLittle Kitty]

57. Why Not... She Is But One Of TWO CORPORATIST Candidates...

:puke:

[Cha]

2. I'm outraged enough to hope

it comes back to bite her in her desperate cunning backside. At this point in time hillary is beyond despicable ..she's running for the Worst Person of the Year raspberry.

[elizm]

7. Hopefully....

....the good people of Nevada will see through this BS. And I am a SC TEACHER who is appalled at the Teacher's Union in Nevada. If this is what teacher's unions do then I am GLAD we do not have one in SC. Total BS.

[Cha]

21. I know..it's a paradox that

the teacher's union is doing it but if they're supporting hillary then what do we expect? Ethics, class?

[papau]

3. OK -why do you claim "Clintons"? - the hispanic union vote is split despit endorsement - so how does

this help Hillary?

[fightindonkey]

4. Anything To Make Obama Appear Weak And Defenseless Against Mean Ol Hillary.

[Cha]

23. You hit on that..."Mean ol' hillary" is

putting it mildly.

[elizm]

9. Ummm...because the culinary union endorsed Obama??????

[papau]

12. and all Las Vegas votes will go to Obama ?? - don't think so - besides where is the "Clinton" action

[sandnsea]

16. They kept Obama poll observers out in NH

So they couldn't coordinate their GOTV efforts. Tahiti has a post up in GD. Voter suppression in 3 states now. What does it take? 4 different fundraising scandals. All the different connections to outsources and corrupt business owners. Geez louise.

[papau]

27. link - I know many officials in NH and would like to see if slander or truth

[dkf]

36. Like I said dirty rotten scum bastards.

Clinton is 10x worse than I thought.

But I'm sure she will find even worse things to do. Damn I have zero respect for her.

[babylonsister]

5. I can't even believe they've done this, and the timing is outrageous.

Does anyone think this would be an issue if Clinton had gotten the endorsement from the union? I think she's made a big mistake here.

[MethuenProgressive]

17. "it is unclear whether there are ties between the lawsuit and the Clinton campaign"

From the OP.

[Bread and Circus]

51. unclear as in probably but we can't prove it beyond a shadow of doubt..

[durrrty libby]

8. Your ill informed faux rage is enough to go around

[Missy M]

13. It sure is...

and it is all based on supposition. In Obama's campaign there is lots of that.

[sandnsea]

10. The denial continues

It's as bad as the Bushies, it really is.

[elizm]

11. It is truly sick. nt

[Proud2BAmurkin]

14. "The Clintons attempt"...If I didn't know better I'd sense some desperation nt

nt

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

19. Then we should suppress the Clintons-- any accident that many of these workers support John Edwards?

I wonder if Hillary fears Edwards even more than Obama. It wouldn't surprise me one bit.

[elizm]

49. These workers endorsed Obama. nt

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

55. True

Guess I was hoping some of them might support Edwards, though if Edwards doesn't get the nod, I'll happily support Obama.

[Maven]

20. "The Clintons attempt to suppress the vote"

Start by being honest about the story, instead of moulding the facts to suit your agenda.

[goodgd_yall]

22. How do you get that Clinton is behind this?

[Adelante]

24. I think it's sabotage

The rules were established last spring and agreed to by all candidates. In all that time no lawsuit. Obama gets the Culinary Workers endorsement and bing! What were they waiting for, I wonder?

[juajen]

31. I don't understand

The article said "late last year". Wouldn't late mean in Nov. or Dec. Where do you get your information?

[Adelante]

42. Here, juajen

The state party quickly dismissed the lawsuit. Going back to last spring, every presidential campaign was involved in setting up the unusual casino caucus sites while state party officials and the Democratic National Committee ironed out the details. "This is a fair, legal and proper way to choose delegates under established law and legal precedent that has been reviewed by attorneys....The time for comment or complaint has passed," the party said in a statement.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/12/post_271.html

[Diane R]

25. Hillary wil do Rove and GWB proud. Democrats better not fall for the Clinton's PR.

[libertee]

30. Looking forward to celebrating her victory!

Hope you will join us!

[City Lights]

26. There isn't any from the Clinton camp. Only outrage that someone would

suggest she had anything to do with this.

[sandnsea]

35. Like the SBVT weren't coordinating with Bush, right?

Everybody involved has endorsed her.

Hello?

[City Lights]

38. Yeah, and she said she's the "most innocent" one running!

:eyes: :puke:

[FrenchieCat]

41. Oh yeah.....

I remember that now! :puke:

[City Lights]

40. Self-delete

duplicate post

[Lucinda]

28. Perphaps people should READ THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT before passing judgement. LINK:

http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf

[TreasonousBastard]

29. Actually, I'm impressed-- it's a masterful bit of...

planning. Dirty business, of course, but it's only recently that we've bothered to condemn politicians for being politicans.

It takes longer than two days to put together a lawsuit like this, so I imagine someone had it sitnng on the pot for months just waiting to see if it was needed. The teachers aren't endorsing anyone, but some of their leaders are openly for Clinton. Hmmmm...

So, "What did she know, and when did she know it?"

(It's gonna be SO much fun on the 5th when we got all those states to look under the mattresses in.)

[IndianaGreen]

39. Hillary is turning out to be the Great Uniter, just like Bush was

and perhaps with the same horrible consequences for all of us.

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

54. Yeah, uniting the Democratic base against our own party

We may never be able to overcome the damage from this.

[annie1]

32. That's fucked up - disgustingly undemocratic if it what it seems to be.

[acmavm]

33. Anybody think that the Teacher's Union and those others might just think

that the playing field should be level? That one group of people shouldn't be able to have special accomodations when no one else does? And that it isn't right that they should have more representatives than everyone else?

[elizm]

50. Nope. nt

[acmavm]

52. My fault. I phrased it in the form of a question.

[FrenchieCat]

34. Geeze. state by state.....

there are more stories of voter supression than I care to hear about.

[ronnykmarshall]

37. And the shits ... uh hits just keep on coming!

[Yael]

43. I guess we are all so used to the dirty politics that the Clintons have played for 15 years

that we don't even blink at them any more.

[Rageneau]

46. I've never seen the Clintons play dirty politics.

I've seen them play smart politics, and tough politics, and wimpy politics, sometimes even stupid politics, but I've never seen them actually DO anything wrong as public servants.

I've seen thousands of people (especially rich, conservative republicans and mainstream journalists) ACCUSE them of doing wrong, but being accused of something means nothing unless an offense can be proved. Otherwise, it might be the ACCUSERS who are the true malefactors.

Personally, I think Ken Starr, Richard Sciafe, Dan Burton, Tom DeLay, the Hunt Brothers, etc., etc., etc. -- the great majority of Clinton accusers -- are less worthy human beings than Bill and Hillary are.

Being accused of, even persecuted for crimes, does not mean a person is truly guilty of them. They crucified Jesus on false pretenses, didn't they?

Oh, the Clintons can be tricky, slippery, even a little duplicitous when they have to be, but how can they be otherwise and survive amidst their uncountable enemies with their unquenchable bloodlust?

But, IMHO, the Clintons are about as honest a pair of politicians as America has ever had.

Prove me wrong if you can.

With something besides accusation and innuendo.

[Yael]

47. If this is your interpretation, you must be a big fan of Karl Rove

'Cause thats "all he does" too.

[IndianaGreen]

48. "the Clintons are about as honest a pair of politicians as America has ever had." ROTFL

Do a google on Entergy and Bill and Hillary Clinton!

[IndianaGreen]

44. This is a Clinton campaign strategy being carried out by surrogates

Union Files Suit Over Casino Caucuses

The suit was widely expected by state party officials as well as Obama's campaign and the powerful Culinary Workers Union 226, which earlier this week endorsed the Illinois senator in advance of the Jan. 19 Nevada caucus. That endorsement had been eagerly sought by Obama as well as Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and former senator John Edwards (D-N.C.), and by yesterday afternoon culinary union leaders told the Washington Post they expected an outside group with ties to Clinton to file a motion seeking to quash the casino caucuses.

The Nevada State Education Association, some of whose top leaders have individually endorsed Clinton, filed the suit and is using a law firm with close ties to the onetime front-runner, Kummer, Kaempfer, Bonner, Renshaw, and Ferrario. Former congressmen James H. Bilbray (D-Nev.), a lawyer at that firm, has endorsed Clinton and is stumping for her in the Silver State.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/12/post_271.html?hpid=topnews

[dailykoff]

45. Two days after the culinary workers endorse Obama?

Gee, what a coincidence.

[ShadowLiberal]

53. Just disgusting and undemocratic

I hope it creates enough outrage out in Nevada to make the whole thing backfire and get the suit dropped before the caucus. Waiting until the last second to file such a lawsuit is clearly someone wanting to play dirty, affiliation to a candidate's campaign or not.

[shenmue]

56. Suppressed what vote?

Do you ever try to make sense?

Yeah, she's a regular Moneypenny. She's behind everything in the world.

:crazy:

Will you anti-Hillary loons please give up?