What will Hillary's position on Medical Marijuana be? Will she also incarcerate millions?

[Bonobo]

So what will Hillary do? Probably the same, probably the same.

Watch her weak, weak reply to this medical marijuana patient:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP-GgIVRyV8

[aquart]

1. Obama's position? I assume he's said he'll legalize medical marijuana?

[saigon68]

2. She needs the mother's votes

I expect her to step up illegal drug enforcement.

[lynnertic]

3. except Medical Marijuana is not illegal.

[Bonobo]

4. Tell that to the Medical Marijuana growers that get busted ALL the time.

[Anouka]

10. "No drugs are illegal"

Sorry, I'm just trying to figure out how someone can be for the War on Drugs and also be for Illegal Immigration Amnesty. She probably would step it up.. isn't that what happened under her co-presidency watch with her husband?

It comes down to numbers, I guess.

[Bonobo]

17. LMFAO!!!

[NoPasaran]

5. Yes. And throw away the key.

This is your brain on flamebait.

[Bonobo]

6. This is an important issue to many people. nt

[maddiejoan]

13. then why not do some research on her position?

http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20070717133158914

[Bonobo]

15. That same shred of a statement? Reading between the lines tells far more if you know how to do so.

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

7. A fair question to pose. John Edwards FWIW

would get us out of the idiocy of blocking medical marijuana, and all the waste and stupidity that results in.

[Bonobo]

8. It is an issue that will really affect the lives of tens or hundreds of millions.

[Anouka]

9. She's not for retroactive sentencing, how would she deal with MM?

Medical marijuana is not just about health, and how it would be managed under a Universal Health Plan; it's much more about The War On Drugs, and what direction the War on Drugs will be taken in future.

I think people need to concentrate on the local when it comes to MM; the federal government, it is my uneducated belief, will follow the local if enough local get on the MM bandwagon. This isn't something that's going to come from the top down....

and it would be political suicide for a president to advocate for medical marijuana, not until it's politically expedient. There are too many transecting lines of interest beyond healthcare when it comes to this issue. In my opinion.

[Bongo Prophet]

11. All 3 have said they would halt the federal raids of clinics and buyers' clubs

We don't know whether that is true or not, but there it is.
Edwards said he would put cannabis under the FDA, and I would like to know more details on THAT.
Clinton said more research is needed, but I have not heard of incarceration or penalty changes.

None have claimed to want to reign in the DEA (should be abolished) or even lessen the sentences that I know of.
I wish it were not so.

[maddiejoan]

12. Or you could read this

BBSNews 2007-07-17 -- MANCHESTER, NEW HAMPSHIRE (GSMM) - Two prominent presidential contenders have moved in opposite directions on the issue of federal attacks on medical marijuana patients, as America's second largest cancer charity, the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society, came out strongly for protection of medical marijuana patients. Democratic frontrunner Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) called for an end to federal raids in states where medical use of marijuana is legal, while Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) backtracked on an earlier promise to end the raids.

http://bbsnews.net/article.php/20070717133158914

[Bonobo]

16. B-but isn't that the same weak-ass statement you've pedalled in 2 other posts?

I saw it already. I was unimpressed with its lack of vigor.

[maddiejoan]

18. it's the same positions as Edwards

so what's your problem?

[Bonobo]

19. John Edwards is not the subject of this thread.

But you are welcome to start one of your own!

[maddiejoan]

20. Then your OP is nothing more than flamebait

attacking a candidate for the same view that the candidate you support has.

[Bonobo]

21. I am an Edwards supporter, but

Supporting him does not invalidate my right to be more concerned about Hillary than about a candidate that looks like he won't make it.

[maddiejoan]

22. well.

it doesn't do much for credibility. That's for sure.

[Bonobo]

23. Hillary is a problem that I am working to defeat and I am up front about it.

So why is my credibility a problem?

[maddiejoan]

25. Because you don't hold Edwards to the same attack.

If it's bad for Hillary --it's bad for Edwards.

[Bonobo]

26. Same "position" does not equal same actions after elected.

In Hil's case, she sat on her ass for 8 years while her hubbie put tens of millions of innocent people in prison.

THAT is a track record you can take to the bank!

[Didereaux]

27. arte then implying that your guy will NOT back up his campaign stands? now I am confused

[Bonobo]

30. I think you are confused, yes.

Which campaign stands are you referring to?

[Didereaux]

35. Not his stands your statement in the subject line...

"Same "position" does not equal same actions after elected." It seems to imply that Clinton and Edwards have the same stand on something, but your guy might not act on it? Or differently? If the issue is defined, and the stands defined it seems logical to assume that the solutions would at least be similar. or something? as I said your subject line flummoxed me. Love that word. It was a standard of Rex Stouts' 'Nero Wolf'

[Bonobo]

37. Maybe you should start a thread about Edward's position on medical marijuana

if you want to talk about that.

Interesting word indeed!

• flummox •

Printable Version Pronunciation: flê-mêks • Hear it!

Part of Speech: Verb

Meaning: To confuse, befuddle, addle to the point of frustration.

Notes: The adjective from today's word, flummocky "confused, befuddled", like the etymology (see History below) suggest that we are spelling it all wrong. These clues suggest that it should be spelled flummocks; however, please don't spell it that way until we all agree on it.

In Play: Life today is getting so complicated, people find themselves flummoxed more and more frequently: "When Steve Adore asked Alga Witham to marry him, he was flummoxed by her response that she would if he would sign a prenuptial agreement giving her all his money in case of divorce." As work becomes more complicated, opportunities for today's Good Word multiply: "The responsibilities of his new job were so far above Newton's head that he was flummoxed at the outset and lasted only a month in the new position."

Word History: Flummox comes to us from the dialectal recesses of Merry Old and reached London around the 1830s. Dickens wrote in the Pickwick Papers (1837) "He'll be what the Italians call reg'larly flummoxed." Well, what the Dickens was Dickens thinking? He must have been flummoxed by the origin of the word—it certainly didn't come from Italian. According to the OED, it is probably of dialectal origin, coming from flummocks "to maul, mangle," flummock "slovenly person," or flummock "to make untidy, to confuse, bewilder". How it got into the dialects of UK English, however, still has us all flummoxed. (We are so happy that Susan Lister was not flummoxed by what to do with this word and sent it directly to us to share with you today.)

[maddiejoan]

29. Uhm

Hillary wasn't in the Senate when Bill was President --and uhm--they are not the same person.

[Bonobo]

31. OK, I'll make sure just to give her credit for the good stuff from now on.

[maddiejoan]

32. BTW

Obama on Medical Marijuana

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/11/25/165411/24

All of the Democratic candidates have endorsed ending federal raids on medical marijuana clinics in the states that have legalized marijuana. Obama was the last of the ten to do so.

In short, Obama is a lot like Hillary on the subject of marijuana: Both want more research for medical marijuana, both would end federal raids in states where medical pot is legal, and neither favor decriminalization.

[Bonobo]

33. Thanks for the info. nt

[no name no slogan]

14. Bill didn't inhale. I doubt HIllary did either

One of the reasons I was alwasy suspicious of Bill Clinton was that he couldn't figure out how to properly work a joint (i.e., "he didn't inhale"). If you can't figure out how to work a doobie, should your finger really be on the button?

Either way, I'm sure she's a nice "law and order"-type candidate who believes all weed smokers are criminals who should be locked up with the mass-murderers and child molesters.

[Forrest Greene]

24. Like Everything

...it will be exactly what she's told to make it be.

[BenDavid]

28. I'll be your doobie doctor....hehe

[Sebass1271]

34. AS A MOTHER OF A 19 YR

Old, this is a very personal and important issue to me. I will NOT support a candidate who supports Marijuana to be legal. If medical marijuana will be subscribed by doctors to save someone ill from pain and suffering, the, this is different it will need to be reviewed carefully and cautiously. My son has given me a lot of trouble in school b/cause of this (Marijuana), thank GOD, he is not doing it now, i had to send him away for six months for therapy because he was lacking in his responsibilities and school and was becoming more and more addicted to it. He did not have any interest of maintaining a job, all he wanted to do was SMOKE with his friends.

So, as you can see, I don't like any type of DRUGS, and to me Marijuana is one of them. I will NOT SUPPORT any of them if they pass legislation approving legalize marijuana. As a mother, it has been heartbreaking for me to see my child who was (and is) a smart child in high school, receiving letters from several colleges who were interested in him, turn into something he was NOT because of the use of Marijuana.

I hope you understand.

Sorry.
:cry:

[Bonobo]

36. No apologies necessary.

But between you and me, the pot is probably a symptom, not a cause.

Hope you are not too offended by that and will give it some thought.