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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:55 PM
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Shut Up, Larry
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-smiley/shut-up-larry_b_81091.html
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When I read Lawrence O'Donnell's post calling John Edwards a "loser" and threatening a lifetime of infamy if he doesn't get out of the race, I immediately went to O'Donnell's bio to see his party affiliation. I was sure it would say "R" -- but it didn't. It didn't say anything.

However, I am fairly sure in my own mind that Karl Rove paid him to write that post. Look at it this way: O'Donnell attacks the only candidate in the race with explicitly progressive policy positions, and the only candidate in the race who hasn't accepted corporate money, and the only candidate in the race who understands how corporations are poisoning American politics and American life with their unrestrained power and influence.

In addition, O'Donnell maintains that the only two candidates we can have to choose between are Clinton and Obama. Both Clinton and Obama have serious electability issues. If you believe that there was no Diebold factor in New Hampshire (something that I think requires further investigation but will not get it, I am sure), then you have to acknowledge and fear the Bradley factor -- that there is a core group of American white voters who will not vote for a black man no matter what they say to pollsters. By the same token, polls among voters of all types have shown that Clinton has the highest negatives -- the highest number of voters who will not vote for her under any circumstances.

Hillary Clinton aroused incredible antagonism in the 1990s. The antagonism she aroused was not rational, but then, neither is voting. So, what O'Donnell proposes is prematurely reducing the choices of Democrats to the two candidates that are, on the face of it, the least electable. It was clear from the op-ed that Rove wrote a few weeks ago that the Republicans, whose own candidates run the gamut from the ridiculous (Fred Thompson) to the psychopathic (Rudolph Giuliani) and the theocratic (Huckabee) have already begun to see finagling the Democratic primary race as their only chance. If O'Donnell happens to be a Democrat and he buys into this strategy, then the infamy is his.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:57 PM
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1. the article called Edwards a racist because he hasn't dropped
of the election.

So exercising the right to run for the presidency is now a racist act - total BS from an Obama supporter.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:58 PM
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2. Reminds me of Steinem.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:00 PM
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3. Well we have seen
that if you hate Hillary, you are sexist, and if you hate Obama, you are racist.
It's all total BS and credits NOBODY with independent thought processes. EVERYONE should be offended that it has come down to this.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:20 PM
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12. Yes indeed. I can't wait for the next few months to pass
Its only the 11th day of the year and this has gotten SO old already.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:02 PM
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5. It is total BS
He's just plain wrong. People are sometimes.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:02 PM
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4. Larry O'Donnell says exactly what he thinks
He thinks Edwards is hurting Obama. I think he's wrong, the more I think of it. Of all people out there, Larry O'Donnell is the least likely to engage in inter-party electioneering. He says what he thinks.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:07 PM
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7. which apparently does not include any fondness for democracy
he thinks that Obama and Clinton deserve to have a one-on-one competition.
He fails to recall that the purpose of the election is for the people to chose who they want.
The election is not "FOR" the candidates. The Election is for the people.
The people should have choice.
That is democracy.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:10 PM
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8. He's looking at strategy, career hazard
He's absolutely wrong. I think these folks should tape Democracy First to their bathroom mirrors or something, to remind them what they're supposed to be doing.
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:12 PM
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9. maybe he's paid to hype the candidates
but anyone reading his BS better keep their mind on the goal of democracy
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:19 PM
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11. well that was the gameplan the networks have played by
from the day they annoited our candidates for us. I guess the proles haven't fell into line good enough, so now the flaming rhetoric comes out charging racism.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:06 PM
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6. You're wrong about one thing
However, I am fairly sure in my own mind that Karl Rove paid him to write that post.

Not all evil in the universe radiates from a Karl Rove epicenter. Larry O'Donnell has a long history of hotheaded bigotry and shallow thinking. Check out his wikipedia article (that's an indirect link because of a fluke in DU's coding protocols for weblinks with apostrophes in them). What you'll see there is a history of a man who can't bear to give honest weight to other people's ideas. That is, he's a bigot.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:18 PM
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10. *I* didn't write it
it was a rebuttal on Huff Post to that piece of shit story that O'Donnell vomited.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:23 PM
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13. Jane Smily is wrong about one thing.
ibid

(and sorry about the confusion)
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:36 PM
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14. K&R!!!
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:07 PM
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15. I really like Jane Smiley!
:) Bring it on, Sister!
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