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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 05:44 PM
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Tweety argues 'historic fact' that Bill's infidelity is the only reason Hillary's in Senate
Amid accusations of misogyny, Matthews slams 'View' hosts
David Edwards and Nick Juliano
Published: Friday January 11, 2008

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Matthews_slams_View_hosts_for_questioning_0111.html



Responding to criticism of his perceived misogyny from the hosts of The View, MSNBC commentator Chris Matthews delivered a lengthy, condescending tirade reiterating his suggestion that Hillary Clinton's political career is precipitated on her husband's infidelity, belittling those who would suggest otherwise and claiming to know more about history than the View women.

After prematurely writing Clinton's political obituary before the New Hampshire primary, Matthews reversed himself after her stunning victory, promising Tuesday night to "never underestimate" the former First Lady again. The next morning, Matthews displayed what many saw as a dramatic example of just how far he could put his foot into his mouth.

"Let’s not forget, and I’ll be brutal, the reason she’s a US Senator, the reason she’s a candidate for President, the reason she may be a front runner, is that her husband messed around," Matthews pronounced Wednesday on MSNBC's Morning Joe.

That observation opened the oft-criticized Hardball host to another round of criticism in the blogosphere. The hosts of The View, ABC's daytime chat show aimed at women, weighed in on Matthew's punditry as well.

"I'm very careful here as you know ... not to give my personal opinions," Barbara Walters said. "I had thought that people in news didn't do that. Forget it. The way to get ratings: Come out and slam."

Joy Behar chimed in: "It's almost like a pile-on of these men against her, and I think they're going to get the real backlash for it."

Matthews took offense at Walters' insinuation and took to Morning Joe Friday morning to defend himself. Host Joe Scarborough began with a nice ad hominem attack on Walters.

"Chris, we don't want to take sides," former GOP congressman Scarborough said innocently. "So I'm not gonna bring up the fact that Barbara Walters, a journalist, told Nancy Pelosi she wanted to have sex with Nancy Pelosi's husband. We also will not bring up that journalist Barbara Walters told Faith Hill she wanted to have sex, on air, with Tim McGraw. Instead, I'm just going to ask you this straight question: Does Barbara Walters have a point?"

(For the record, Walters told Hill, "We'd all like to do your husband ," but she said it was co-host Whoopie Goldberg who "would like to do" Pelosi's husband.)

Matthews said it was Clinton's performance campaigning for New York Sen. Chuck Schumer in 1998, after revelations of her husband's affair with Monica Lewinsky, that launched her own senate bid two years later. He said Walters and Behar -- whose name he either was unable to remember or refused to acknowledge -- had their facts wrong.

"Those are this historic facts, Barbara and the other woman, those are the historic facts. I know how you play to a crowd, I know how talk radio works, which is the way a lot of programs work, where you find something to argue about," Matthews said.

"If Barbara Walters wants to debate history, and politics and what's happened in this country the last 50 years, if she wants to go on Jeopardy and see what she knows and what I know, I'll take her on," Matthews promised. "If any of the women on that show want to take me on on historic political information ... let's talk political history. Let's talk facts, not opinions, facts, and I'll take them on."

This video (at the URL above) is from MSNBC's Morning Joe, broadcast January 11, 2008.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 05:46 PM
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1. Tweety's on his way out...
You can't be THAT much of a dickhead and retain your job... unless you work for Faux.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 05:46 PM
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2. He's such a treat.
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 05:47 PM by aquart
So if Bob had been caught cheating on Elizabeth Dole, SHE could have been our first woman president?

Pity they didn't invent that Viagra soon enough.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 05:46 PM
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3. Oh, for the love of God --he's whack. nt
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 05:47 PM
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5. whack is an understatement. n/t
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:15 PM
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18. "Whack is an understatement" is an understatement. nm
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 05:47 PM
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4. shallow mind
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 05:49 PM
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6. The fact that Rick Lazio was a blithering...
asshole might have been a factor, too.
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:14 PM
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7. Historians and Political Scientists have had a chance to do studies on causation on this one?
...interesting...it usually takes a little longer than that...gathering and interpreting evidence, and all that...commonly known as "historical method..."
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:15 PM
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8. There is something seriously wrong...
with this man. I'm waiting for a full blown meltdown on national tv any day now.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:19 PM
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11. Unfortunately, he's like the pink bunny
He keeps going and going and going. Mostly diarrhea of the mouth.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:15 PM
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15. it sounds like that was close to it!
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:16 PM
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9. It's time for Matthews to be seen and heard no more. nt
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:18 PM
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10. Well, Tweety is just as wrong as he can be. Hillary worked hard and won over the people of NY.
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 06:19 PM by flpoljunkie
She is a very fine senator who represents the people of New York very well.

Tweety, on the other hand, is disgraceful excuse for a political commentator.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:24 PM
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12. We need to send him and nice big cup of STFU...........
he must have been spitting all over the place. I think the malaria effects his brain.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:24 PM
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13. Well, that explains
why Condi decided not to run for President. Or Laura. No cheating husband to catapult them to success. :sarcasm:

Can Tweety be more condescending? Matthews is spewing opinion not historical fact. :eyes:

Mz Pip
:dem:
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:13 PM
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14. Actually its not what he said - check out the full video
He said it that her ability to persevere amidst all that was going on made her more sympathetic and gave her a higher favorability with Americans - which it did. W/o that he said she probably couldn't have got elected even with her experience and political skills. The pile on gave her a chance to display her strength and perseverance.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:02 PM
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16. So apparently he never learns
and continues to pile on. Maybe he likes her.


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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:37 PM
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21. But it's not "historical fact".
it's his opinion. stated as fact. loudly, repeatedly, and with much saliva.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:14 PM
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17. Please email MSNBC and explain how Tweety is a "right wing tool" per Stephanie
Miller. Or that he is a stogie for the corporatists.
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Infinite Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:31 PM
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19. Interesting. I'd like to know more about that 1998 campaigning for Schumer situation. n/t
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:34 PM
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20. blither. fucking. idiot.
apologies to all against blithering idiots out there.
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MzShellG Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 11:54 PM
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22. The fact of the matter is:
Hillary would not have been a national political figure if it weren't for her hubby. She wants to use his positives to score points in her campaign, but she can't have it both ways. When she takes credit for accomplishments during the Clinton presidency, she's opening the floodgates for criticism of the negatives as well. The whole Lewinzsky deal created mass sympathy for her, with the way she handled it. The woman vote obviously worked for her in NY.
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gdaerin Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 01:00 AM
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23. EW!
"For the record, Walters told Hill, "We'd all like to do your husband ,"

Oh god, I have to go throw up now,

For The Record, I would rather Eat Glass!
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