Did Edwards t alk about his grandparents working in a mill last election? Or just his father...

[jenmito]

I don't remember bringing up his grandparents until this time.

[PresidentObama]

1. Mostly his father. Why does this matter? Just curious...

[jenmito]

12. It makes me wonder about his sincerity. n/t

[jackson_dem]

21. Edwards is the first candidate to retool his stump speech

:sarcasm:

Obama didn't talk a lot about insurance companies, drug companies, etc. in the past. Maybe he is insincere in his opposition to them? :crazy: That is serious unlike whether someone mentioned his grandparents in his stump speech at all times.

[jenmito]

28. There's a difference beteen retooling a stump speech and

making claims about your own life that may not be true.

[LibraLiz1973]

33. actually he talked a lot about his grandparents in 04, particularly his

grandmother.

Also, go ahead and read "Four Trials" before you get suspicious of him and his
feelings towards his parents and grandparents.

[saracat]

2. he talked about both. But concentrated more on his father.

[Darth_Kitten]

39. If those who don't care Edwards want to get their knickers in a knot.....

over the fact his father worked himself up to a supervisory position (how dare he!!!!), then so be it. It seems like he wasn't a spoiled child of privilege like SOME people's kids who were born on third base and think they hit a god-dang triple. :)

[golddigger]

3. That's it!!!

When he starts bringing the grandparents into the discussion he cross the line with me.

Gobama!!!!!!!
:sarcasm:

[ShadesOfGrey]

35. LOL! nt

[Jane Austin]

4. When he talks about his father "going into the mill every day for 30 years"

he can be challenged by someone pointing out that his father ended up being the manager of a mill after being the floor supervisor in another mill.

As I understand it, the floor man is the guy who reports to the owners as to who is slacking off or vice/versa

[Snotcicles]

11. WTF

[jenmito]

13. She's just pointing out the facts. It's not like he was one of the "little guys" all that time. n/t

[Snotcicles]

18. So what, damn shallow trivial shit, get a life. nt

[jenmito]

19. I bet you also think he "chose" to take matching funds to "take a stand" even though

he first chose NOT to take them? :rofl:

[Snotcicles]

20. What do you want? Blood? nt

[jenmito]

25. I want you to tell me whether you think he was honest about that or not. n/t

[Snotcicles]

27. Honest about what?

[jenmito]

29. About the reasons he ended up taking matching funds.

[Snotcicles]

31. I don't get what you are saying. I don't think he lies about anything.

Edwards campaign to accept public funding
By Sam Youngman and Klaus Marre
September 27, 2007
In a stunning move that was described by one expert as a “Hail Mary” play, John Edwards’s campaign said Thursday afternoon that the former North Carolina Democratic senator will accept public matching funds for the 2008 primary season.

A campaign official told The Hill that the campaign would take in about $7 million for the third quarter, which ends at midnight on Sunday. This would bring Edwards to about $30 million for the year, or about $10 million shy of the campaign’s $40 million goal to compete in the first four states. All of those totals are well below the record-breaking hauls of Edwards’s Democratic rivals, Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (N.Y.) and Barack Obama (Ill.). At the end of the second quarter, Edwards had $13.5 million cash on hand. By accepting public funding, the campaign would cap its spending at a sum estimated to be $50 million for the primary.

The decision will give the campaign an infusion of cash that could help win early states. However, if these early results are not achieved, Edwards would not be left with enough money to compete later in the race.

In addition, if Edwards became the nominee, the move could also hamstring his fundraising until the nominating convention.
The campaign said the decision is based on his effort to keep private money out of politics.

“You can’t buy your way to the Democratic nomination — you should have to earn the votes of the American people with bold vision and ideas,” said Edwards’ campaign manager, former Rep. David Bonior (Mich.), in a statement. “This is the most expensive presidential campaign in history, by far. And the simple fact is that the influence of money in politics — and the focus on raising money in this election — has gotten out of control. It’s time to get back to focusing on the issues that matter to the American people. That’s why John Edwards has decided to play by the rules that were designed to ensure fairness in the election process by capping his campaign spending and seeking public financing.”

Edwards challenged other Democrats to follow suit, but it is unlikely that Clinton and Obama will forgo their war chests.

[jenmito]

32. I'm saying that in Feb. '07 he chose NOT to take matching funds in order to

remain competitive. If you want a link, which I've posted many times, I'll show you. He didn't choose matching funds 'til he was unable to raise as much as he originally hoped-enough to rival the others'.

[surfermaw]

5. I can't remember I do know he said his mother was a share croppers daughter

however, about that time many of the farm families were going to the Cotton mills in the southern states, and I would think the Sharecroper would have gone before the land owners.

[Adelante]

6. I remember Clark's grandfather worked in a mill

I don't remember ever hearing if Edwards' did or not.

[no name no slogan]

7. No. Nor did he talk about living in a van down by the river.

[Adelante]

8. That was Kucinich nt

[no name no slogan]

9. Ah, that's right. One of those white guys. They all look the same to me.

nt

[jenmito]

14. And Chris Farley. n/t

[SaveElmer]

10. His father was a mill worker? I hadn't heard!!

:sarcasm:

[jenmito]

16. I think I heard him say that once.

[flpoljunkie]

15. I don't remember, but it would seem logical his grandparents also worked in the mill.

That's where the jobs were, I suspect.

[jenmito]

17. It just seems like a new applause line to me, even if it IS true.. n/t

[Two Americas]

23. baseless speculation

Yes! Let's elect a candidate who never gets applause. The less popular the better!

Who cares if what the candidate says is true or not? Let's just idly and maliciously speculate on some dark devious possible motives without any supporting evidence and see if we can trash the character of a Democratic candidate with innuendo and insinuation and get his supporters really angry.

:sarcasm:

[jenmito]

26. It's not baseless. He's said false/fishy things before. n/t

[Two Americas]

36. something's fishy all right

No doubt there.

[Two Americas]

22. yes

Most definitely. But even if he had not, so what?

[MethuenProgressive]

24. His dad was a supervisor of mill workers.

But "son of a mill worker' tested better in the focus groups...

[Two Americas]

34. in later life

Yes his father finally did achieve a supervisory position later in life. No one has ever claimed or suggested otherwise.

What focus group were your talking points tested out on, I wonder? Edwards story is factual. Yours is speculative. Edwards story hurts no one. Yours is destructive and malignant.

[Generator]

30. Here you go

http://jre-whatsnottolike.com/2003/09/

His maternal grandparents worked in a cotton mill in Utica, a mill village on the outskirts of Seneca, about 10 miles from Clemson University. His father’s people were more upwardly mobile. Edwards’ grandfather ran a small furniture store and served on the town council of nearby Walhalla.
~
Edwards’ parents, Wallace Edwards and Bobbie Wade, were both working in the mill when they met at a square dance at a nearby state park. They married in 1952 and settled into a three-room rental in Utica Mill Village.

~
They lived briefly in a public housing project, but things soon got better for the young family.

~
By the time Wallace Edwards brought the family to Robbins in 1965, he was a department head and soon would become production manager of the local Milliken plant.




His mother held a series of jobs, including starting a small roadside antiques store where she bought furniture, refinished it and sold it to help put her son through college. She worked for the county board of elections. She took her last job, as a rural letter carrier in West End, to provide her family with health insurance.


YES his father went on to be a manager-thus meaning that everything John Edwards believes is fake and meaningless-because obviously if your father is a MANAGER you hate the people and are working for the man.

YES he wasn't dirt poor-therefore he can't care about the poor. He never mentioned grandparents before therefore he's a fake.

GOD I hate this place sometimes.

He is bringing up his grandparents as part of a speech-that all our ancestors did not toil and work hard for the cesspool of corporate greed that is America today. That has only happened in the last forty years-the Bush AND Clinton years.

[Two Americas]

37. the all american story

This is a story that millions of people in this country can intimately relate to and completely understand. It is about the way the rest of us live - the 90% of the people who were not born to privilege. The 90% who are under relentless assault and who are losing ground every day. The 90% who have had no voice, no power and who have watched as everything good in the country has been destroyed in front of their eyes. That is who Edwards is speaking for, and that is who I will stand with until I die no matter what happens in this election cycle.

The great thing about supporting Edwards is that every negative thing said about him just gives us yet another opportunity to spread the message. A message that gets more powerful and compelling every time it is told, and a message that we can stand up for in confidence and strength. It is a message that cannot fail, and that is the best thing that has happened to the party and to the country in a long time. If nothing else, in this Edwards has already given us something we have not had in decades. Now that he has started this, there is no going back and we will prevail someday, somehow.

"Our cause, then, must be intrusted to, and conducted by, its own undoubted friends - those whose hands are free, whose hearts are in the work - who do care for the result. Two years ago (we) mustered over thirteen hundred thousand strong. We did this under the single impulse of resistance to a common danger, with every external circumstance against us. Of strange, discordant, and even hostile elements, we gathered from the four winds, and formed and fought the battle through, under the constant hot fire of a disciplined, proud and pampered enemy. Did we brave all then, to falter now? - now, when that same enemy is wavering, dissevered and belligerent? The result is not doubtful. We shall not fail - if we stand firm, we shall not fail. Wise counsels may accelerate, or mistakes delay it, but, sooner or later, the victory is sure to come."


Abraham Lincoln
House Divided speech
Springfield, Illinois
June 16, 1858

[Andy823]

38. Man your sinking low here.

Get a life and if you have some issue with Edwards stand on the problems of this country, point them out, but going after him on something as stupid as this, that low!:spank: