Hillary advisor "If you want Obama to be your imaginary hip black friend"

[Konza]

Would someone tell the Hillary advisors to shut up?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2238148,00.html

Seriously....

[Rockholm]

1. Wish you would.

[Windy]

2. Here is the specific quote from the article

"In the words of that Clinton adviser: "If you have a social need, you're with Hillary. If you want Obama to be your imaginary hip black friend and you're young and you have no social needs, then he's cool."


My God. Pathetic.

[Adelante]

22. Oh no oh no oh no

I can't stand any more :cry:

[sandnsea]

33. This is unbelievable

Even to me and I've always known the crap white people say behind closed doors. I just thought it was old people who were raised in a different time and hadn't made the change. This is some awful stuff.

[Skidmore]

43. Yes, it is awful and dispicable that people in this party would be

speaking this way still in the 21st century.

[Barack_America]

48. If Hillary and co. are going to provide us with one of these *oops* moments...

...everyday, I'm seriously going to have to go on meds. I can't take it anymore. Just when the anger over one subsides, they unleash another. It's too much.

WTF is the general election going to be like? I just can't even think about it.

[aquart]

Yeah, we can't speak ill of the canny home buyer.

Which word did you object to, BTW? "Imaginary?" "Hip?" "Black?" "Friend?"

[killbotfactory]

3. ugh...

It never stops. They just can't help themselves.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

4. Is it bad now to be a hip black guy?

That sounded like a compliment to me.

[aquart]

5. Absolutely.

If you have no social needs.

[thoughtcrime1984]

15. Would you support BO in the GE?

I would support any of the 3. Let's knock this snarkiness off, huh? I am very willing to play nice until the GE, if the others are.

[killbotfactory]

7. It's only bad if the "hip black guy" doesn't sell you drugs.

[Bucky]

71. Oh, but I see you don't come to the defense of those of us who only have imaginary friends.

My giant rabbit Harvey is gonna beat the "hip" out of you!

[wyldwolf]

6. who said it?

[Occam Bandage]

9. Anonymous, presumably-overzealous staffer.

[wyldwolf]

11. a google search on that quote only turns up that source.

[Occam Bandage]

13. Probably a low-ranking, insignificant staffer, directly to the reporter.

[wyldwolf]

14. then again, maybe not. The story is a day old and no one else picked it up?

[babylonsister]

45. Hmmm, just like those nasty volunteers sending the smear e-mails.

But no one in the Clinton camp knows anything. Why does it always happen with Clinton's campaign? :think:

[Konza]

16. it's the lead on the drudge report

so only a couple million people are reading it right now.

And it probably just a staffer, but someone really has to send an email out to the campaign explaining : talk up Hillary, not put down Barack or his voters.

[wyldwolf]

34. nope, it links to the same source in the OP.

[Barack_America]

53. "Advisor" = Staffer? There's a BIG difference there.

Do you really think The Guardian would make that mistake?

This has to be somebody considerably higher up.

[Occam Bandage]

8. She really ought to be running a tighter campaign.

Each of these little advisor gaffes aren't much on their own, but the last thing Hillary needs is to lose her sympathetic image.

[wyldwolf]

10. who said it?

[2rth2pwr]

12. I like it. But why did you cut off the quote?

That was not the remark. "If you have a social need, you're with Hillary. If you want Obama to be your imaginary hip black friend and you're young and you have no social needs, then he's cool."

This reminds me of this classic site for nerdy white people. http://www.blackpeopleloveus.com/

Welcome to our website:
Black People Love Us!

We are well-liked by Black people so we're psyched (since lots of Black people don't like lots of White people)!! We thought it'd be cool to honor our exceptional status with a ROCKIN' domain name and a killer website!!

Testimonial- "Johnny is generous enough to remark upon how "articulate" I am! That makes me feel good!"

[Konza]

17. i just used what Drudge was running

that's what most folks will see right off

[Bluebear]

19. We aren't Drudge fans here, actually

We can actually read a whole paragraph.

[Occam Bandage]

20. Except when he attacks our punching-bag of choice.

[Konza]

24. no, but people see that stuff

and watch the news. Maybe I should just pretend Drudge, Fox, etc don't exist.

[Bluebear]

27. Well aren't you fresh for a 3-day member!

[Konza]

35. so what's your point?

I can't have an opinion?
I should just let the machine insult my candidate, put me down, laugh while doing it?
Nope. I'm gonna say what I think. And you're free to do likewise.

And it is true that I am technically new here.
But I've been here since 2004, but never joined/posted, just read.
I'm embarrassed to admit that I gave up on politics in Dec 2000.
I was still interested to read, but I kinda felt democracy was dead in America.
But for the first time in a long time I give a damn and think we have a chance to do something extraordinary.
Now, you can join, oppose or sit on the sidelines.
But I'm going to do what I think is right, for the first time in a long time, and maybe for the last time.

peace.

[Bluebear]

40. Of course you can have an opinion, I don't know why you're so frigging hot over it.

Temper, temper.

[Konza]

41. Yep, you're right

I am getting too angry this election. Time to turn off the tv and step away from the keyboard.
At this rate I'll have a heart attack before summer ;)

Peace

[debatepro]

67. "I don't know why you're so frigging hot over it."

I'll make sure to say the same thing the next time you demand an appology from Obama for something McClurkin said at some point ... when obama came out and said: I strongly believe that African Americans and the LGBT community must stand together in the fight for equal rights. And so I strongly disagree with Reverend McClurkin's views and will continue to fight for these rights as President of the United States to ensure that America is a country that spreads tolerance instead of division."

[LostinVA]

58. Linking to RW sites is against DU rules

[Adelante]

26. I love that site

:D

[2rth2pwr]

39. Been a long time, but this post reminded me.

Johnny always says: "I'm not racist; one of my best friends is Black!" I think he might mean me!

[goodgd_yall]

60. That's a riot! Thanks for the link.

[Barack_America]

18. Could you edit your post to include the full quote?

Thanks. It's so much more damning that way.

[Bluebear]

21. "Damning" lol

[Barack_America]

28. This is the 3rd day in a row, we're hearing of racially charged statements...

...coming from the Clinton camapaign, and you're under the impression that this is a good thing?

[Bluebear]

29. One anonymous source, if it happened at all. What's your view of Donnie McClurkin?

[Barack_America]

37. I don't agree with it, but....

(and I'm going to get nailed for this, and it it's not even how I want to think)

...I'm willing to be a *little* more understanding towards people who just don't-quite-get-it-yet with regards to gay and lesbian rights BECAUSE:
1. This struggle is newer, whereas we're many generations in to the civil rights movement
-and-
2. Churches and society are still sending mixed messages to people on this issue, whereas they are in unity on the race issue.

But my personal views on gays and lesbians are: no difference and no different rights or treatment. And I make those views known.

[Bluebear]

42. Well, Obama should have known better than to hire him

PS, and I know what you mean, but remember there have been gays and lesbians since the beginning of time, so their struggle isn't necessarily newer :)

[Barack_America]

44. I meant newer in the sense of public debate...

...But I think you realized that.

[Konza]

38. the "ex-gay" bigot?

I don't care for him, and I won't be voting for him.
thanks for asking!

[leftynyc]

46. How do you know it came from the campaign?

I don't see a name attached. Have you found one?

[sufrommich]

52. You will never get an answer for that...

and yet,it will be repeated over and over again as absolute gospel.

[Barack_America]

56. I'm relying on Reporter Integrity.

The Guardian is fairly well respected. If they said that an "Advisor" said it, I'm going to take their word that somebody fairly high up in the Clinton campaign uttered these words.

We'll probably never find out who though, unless one of her advisors suddenly leaves the campaign for "personal reasons".

[Barack_America]

31. I'm so picky, but I liked the original title better, but just with the full quote

in the text.

Great pick-up though and thanks a lot for bringing it to our attention!!

[dailykoff]

23. Bombing Iran is a social need?

I guess it is if you're Halliburton.

[Barack_America]

25. Why IMAGINARY? Why can't I have a REAL black friend?

This just solidifies my suspicion that the Clinton campaign is full of white, covert, "black people are just different" style racists. And they're all just ramming their collective feet into Hillary's mouth.

[Dogmudgeon]

30. I'm dreaming this. Maybe even hallucinating it.

And in about fifteen minutes I'm going to wake up and have to pee.

I've had bad dreams before, and this is one of them.

--p!
And no more LSD before noon, either.

[jefferson_dem]

32. I hate these people.

n/t

[2rth2pwr]

36. What do you mean by "these people"?

How dare you minimize them in such a dehumanizing way. You are classifying them as the "other"

You strip them of their identity and make them the enemy, easily dismissed and easier to hurt.

[leftynyc]

47. Which people?

I'm afraid I can't get excited about this until I see a name attached and confirm that person is speaking for the campaign. You, apparently, will believe anything if it fits your preconceived notions.

[dailykoff]

49. Start with Carville and work down.

Although you can't get much lower than Carville.

[sandnsea]

61. Start with Bill & Hil and work down

He attacked Obama as a fairy tale. Hillary attacked MLK and is now saying Obama was just a "part-time" Senator in Illinois, while Rove is out there calling Obama lazy.

Once or twice, it's an accident. Repeatedly? Right to the top. Same standards we apply to Bush.

[dailykoff]

65. Bingo.

I think we're seeing unity but not the type Obama was talking about.

[rudy23]

50. Hillary's campaign has been revolting. Obama's sinking in the mud, too.

I'm sick of the racial attacks by Hillary's minions.

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

51. Yet another stupid comment

Are the Clintons consciously trying to push African-Americans away from the Democrats? This is ridiculous.

[ZinZen]

54. Wow, this kind of crap is going to backfire

on the Clintons bigtime. Are they really that obtuse? I used to have more respect for them.

[Texas_Kat]

55. Which 'advisor' said it?

Ah, the imaginary, unnamed, generic "Clinton advisor'.

Any way to prove (or even hint ) that this is true and not just a fabrication?

Didn't think so.

[Barack_America]

57. The one who suddenly leaves the campaign for "personal reasons"

in the very near future. Whoever it was, they were smart enough not to give their name, just not smart enough not to say it in the first place.

The Guardian is fairly reputable, so I'm going to trust that this indeed came from the Hillary campaign. And, really, is it so different from what we've been hearing from Hillary & co. lately?

[goodgd_yall]

59. The adviser has a point

He or she is merely pointing out a fact about the subconscious guilt Americans have over a national history of racism.

[Barack_America]

63. But thank God we've progressed to at least wanting "IMAGINARY' Black friends

Maybe not real ones (black people are scary and different, after all), but Imaginary ones are ok. :eyes:

I don't have a subconscious guilt. I support Obama no matter what color he is. There's more to his candidacy than his skin color!

Arrrgh! Please, just stop.

[goodgd_yall]

66. I don't think we really disagree.

Like you say, for some people the distant and "imaginary black friend" is much more comfortable for a large number of Americans. I'm speaking of those for whom the shoe fits. I know there are guilt-free, honest-to-god supporters of Obama with no baggage attached to it. The fact is, racism, as well as misogyny is a component in this campaign.

[Barack_America]

69. Okay, but should a Hillary advisor being saying this?

A talking head fine, but somebody affiliated with the campaign? That's irresponsible, IMO. These comments are making Hillary's campaign look very, very bad.

I'm just so disappointed that these things keep coming out from Hillary's people and that we keep having to discuss them. It's exhausting and depressing.

[2rth2pwr]

64. Thank you. Jesus, finally someone with some "huevos"

(huevos can be applied equally well to both the male and the female genders of the homosapien species, for the very sensitive.)

Everybody is running around that like they have a big blind spot.

[goodgd_yall]

68. Hey! Howdy, neighbor!

I'm from the other side of the Bay---Monterey.

[BootinUp]

62. .

[Scriptor Ignotus]

70. like this?

[BeyondGeography]

72. Another completely asinine statement

[applegrove]

73. Trying to get at white guilt somehow? I hate it when races get ugly.