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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:27 PM
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Shut Up Larry!
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 03:28 PM by saracat
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-smiley/shut-up-larry_b_81091.html

When I read Lawrence O'Donnell's post calling John Edwards a "loser" and threatening a lifetime of infamy if he doesn't get out of the race, I immediately went to O'Donnell's bio to see his party affiliation. I was sure it would say "R" -- but it didn't. It didn't say anything.

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However, I am fairly sure in my own mind that Karl Rove paid him to write that post. Look at it this way: O'Donnell attacks the only candidate in the race with explicitly progressive policy positions, and the only candidate in the race who hasn't accepted corporate money, and the only candidate in the race who understands how corporations are poisoning American politics and American life with their unrestrained power and influence.

In addition, O'Donnell maintains that the only two candidates we can have to choose between are Clinton and Obama. Both Clinton and Obama have serious electability issues. If you believe that there was no Diebold factor in New Hampshire (something that I think requires further investigation but will not get it, I am sure), then you have to acknowledge and fear the Bradley factor -- that there is a core group of American white voters who will not vote for a black man no matter what they say to pollsters. By the same token, polls among voters of all types have shown that Clinton has the highest negatives -- the highest number of voters who will not vote for her under any circumstances.

Hillary Clinton aroused incredible antagonism in the 1990s. The antagonism she aroused was not rational, but then, neither is voting. So, what O'Donnell proposes is prematurely reducing the choices of Democrats to the two candidates that are, on the face of it, the least electable. It was clear from the op-ed that Rove wrote a few weeks ago that the Republicans, whose own candidates run the gamut from the ridiculous (Fred Thompson) to the psychopathic (Rudolph Giuliani) and the theocratic (Huckabee) have already begun to see finagling the Democratic primary race as their only chance. If O'Donnell happens to be a Democrat and he buys into this strategy, then the infamy is his.

But I thank him for one thing -- he persuaded me to send a nice fat donation to John Edwards.


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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:32 PM
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1. I Am Happy To Be Listed With A Loser
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You say it so much better than I.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2660634

List me as a supporter of open democracy. (A loser? NOT).
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:33 PM
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2. O'Donnell goes asshole, more and more often. nt
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:35 PM
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3. She's a looney tunes. First she thought Odonnell was a repug?
She claims Hillary won because of Diebold and says it won't get any attention- (see Koochies recount)

Then she claims the Bradley factor- Obama's number didn't change Hillary's went up, way up with women.

Where do they find these ignorant people?

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:47 PM
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7. I think the repug thing was sacrasm. A, opinions for the other.The importan thing was
"Shut UP Larry, unless of course you agree anyone running aginst Obama is racist and those of us who support Edwards or Hillary are racist? I say "Shut UP Larry " along with Jane!
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:36 PM
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4. Good job saracat. This is so good that I'm printing and distributing
it. With your permission of course. Is it alright?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:44 PM
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6. Sure. it is Jane Smileys article! LOL!
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:41 PM
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5. Me too. We have nothing, and yet, I'll get scraps and send it.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:58 PM
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8. Larry O'Donnell is a Democratic Strategist and he's supporting Bloomberg....
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 03:59 PM by KoKo01
it seems:

Here's a little of his background...and a snip from article:

Editorial Reviews
Product Description
Arianna Huffington, of the Center for Effective Compassion, Lawrence O'Donnell, former campaign strategist and chief of staff for Senator Moynihan, and William Kristol of The Weekly Standard magazine discuss the struggling Dole campaign and the upcoming Democratic and Republican conventions. Then, director, Danny Boyle, producer Andrew Macdonald and screenwriter John Hodge discuss their new, much anticipated British film, Train Spotting. Finally, tennis player, MaliVai Washington discusses becoming the first African-American since Arthur Ashe to reach the Wimbledon finals.

And an article O'Donnell wrote about looking for his "Dream Candidate,"

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Where Are You, Dream Candidate?
By Lawrence O'Donnell Jr.
Sunday, May 20, 2007; B01

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Obama has been forced to try to prove to some that he is authentically African American while trying to appeal to others "who might not vote for me because I'm African American."

Democratic former senator John Edwards of North Carolina works the man-of-the-people thing harder than any other candidate, but his $400 haircut -- the one that finally got his bangs under control -- and his "job" at a hedge fund between campaigns tell the larger truth: Edwards is the richest man-of-the-people pretender running for president. Romney may in fact be richer, but in what may be his only flash of authenticity, Romney is running as an ultra-rich Republican, not a populist.

In fact, the two most authentic candidates in the field are Democrats Chris Dodd of Connecticut and Joe Biden of Delaware. Unfortunately for them, they are authentic senators -- not a group that voters usually promote to higher office.

So the all-too-prosaic current roster of declared candidates is the principal provocation for all this buzz about offstage dream candidates. After all, neither party has an inevitable nominee in the field, and the front-runners all have obvious weaknesses. If the eventual Democratic and Republican nominees are burdened by unusually low approval ratings in polls, the stage will be set for the ultimate dream candidate: the third-party savior. H. Ross Perot can't be the only bored billionaire who has thought about controlling the guest list for the Lincoln Bedroom. Remember how easy it was for Perot at the beginning of his 1992 campaign? He was the front-runner in polls for a while against a Republican president (George H.W. Bush) and a hard-charging Democrat (Bill Clinton).

Imagine a Ross Perot who doesn't turn completely flaky in the home stretch. Imagine a Ross Perot with real governing experience. Imagine a Ross Perot with proven bipartisan appeal. Imagine Republican New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, who is finding thinly veiled excuses to make speeches in places such as Texas and Oklahoma and whose chief political strategist has let it leak that he is studying 50-state ballot access for independent presidential candidates. Bloomberg may keep the hope of a dream candidate alive for another year.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/18/AR2007051801648_pf.html




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