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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:16 PM
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Many members of Nevada Culinary Union ignore endorsement, support Hillary
I wasn't surprised when I read in the Politico today that "

In an article titled "HRC gives Obama, union a kick in the shins", Politico quotes a worker saying, "she’s ignoring the Obama endorsement and backing Clinton. Many of her co-workers are doing the same, she said.

I am not surprised. It's not that easy to make people vote for X candidate by means of a big announcement.

Check it out: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7840.html
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:17 PM
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1. This is news? nt
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:18 PM
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2. Wild guess: An Obama supporter? n/t
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:19 PM
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6. Yes. Did you expect every union member to vote in lockstep?
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:19 PM
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4. Well, it was news when they endorsed Obama.
so yes, this is news too.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:18 PM
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3. Good to know they will think for themselves.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:19 PM
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5. Why do people suddenly become irritating and petty when they start supporting HRC?
Just asking..
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:20 PM
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7. The OP is not irritating.
You are merely a blind Hillary hater, just like those hacks on Fox "News".
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:21 PM
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12. so, is it irritating and petty to you? (the ip).
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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:20 PM
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8. Most endorsements tend to sway those who are having trouble
making up their minds on who to support. To those who've made up their minds, endorsements won't have any effect.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:21 PM
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9. No one expected lock-step support
it's the logistical support, particularly with this being the first caucus, that was important. If a phone bank walks across town to HRC's office, that's a story.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:21 PM
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10. HRC gives Obama, union a kick in the shins!
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:21 PM
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11. They don't "make " people vote for anyone...
The union decides what candidate best fits the needs of the whole membership. Individuals are not pestered into supporting anybody.

I mean, look at all the blue collar dickheads back in the '80s that voted Reagan.. the very antithesis of everything labor stands for. It wasn't like Reagan got those union endorsements!
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:23 PM
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13. Brought to you by Politico's Department of Stating What's Fucking Obvious
:eyes:
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:24 PM
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14. In other headlines, "Dog Bites Man"
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:25 PM
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15. If Hillary rang my doorbell and told me to ignore my union rec...
I wouldn't - but I'm not sure I'll tell that to her face.
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VotesForWomen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 05:20 PM
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25. right, cuz when you join a union, freedom of thought and action goes out the window. nt
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:12 PM
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28. If you say so. n/t
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:27 PM
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16. How many is many, and what are the sources....
or is this a signal of what the marching order is wished to be, and politico is helping publicize the suggestion.......? :shrug:
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:28 PM
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17. I wasn't surpised to see AFSCME members volunteer for Obama in Iowa.
I spotted half a dozen in just one small town with their AFSCME jackets and hats on.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:29 PM
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18. K&R!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:41 PM
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19. What is an endorsement?
An endorsement is a show of support for a candidate with volunteers and contributions as an organization. It is not binding on the members.

Not knowing the procedure used by the Culinary Workers my perception would be for the union officers to conduct an endorsement meeting. The meeting should at a minimum consist of representatives from each of the local unions.

My preference would be to only endorse for the General Election. Why? If an organization endorses a candidate in the Primary they would also make the maximum contribution allowed. If the candidate does not become the nominee for the General Election both the organization and nominee lose. The candidate is not likely to receive the maximum allowable contribution from the organization because unions do operate with limited funds regardless of what others might say. If the organization waits until the nominee is decided they still have the option to contribute during the primary and general election cycle to ONE candidate.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:44 PM
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20. This endorsement was about $$$ and Press.
At best these days, Unions are able to moderately influence their members votes. But an endorsement received this late gives a union virtually no chance to rally their ranks. But it does still provide money for the candidate to campaign with, and great press, which Obama has already benefitted from.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:48 PM
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21. yup...... the money
one pays dues to be in the union and yet they endorse someone who you would never want your money to go to..........just because they endorse.doesn't mean the rank and file follows like sheep.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:57 PM
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22. Yes.. and there are many who are told to endorse Hillary..
but are yet voting for Obama. We can go back & forth on this pissing contest all day.

"I have more endorsements"... "No, I DO, I DO"... Well... i have BIGGER endorsements... Well, I have endorsements from groups who have more members...

BLAH BLAH BLAH!

PEOPLE: Vote for whoever the hell you want - just friggin VOTE!
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origin1286 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:58 PM
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23. Many...
means nothing more than "some."

Some means nothing more than at least 1.

So at least one of her co-workers are doing the same. Good for them.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:00 PM
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24. True. But my understanding is that he gets phone banks and other organized ground support
Which is a plus
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 05:22 PM
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26. The thread title is misleading...
the article says nothing about MANY...it's talking about a handful of people.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 05:23 PM
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27. Well, look who posted it. What do you expect?...n/t
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