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Greenwood Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:09 PM
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Can anyone say anything without being called "racist" or "sexist"???
This gotcha mentality is scary and I think some folks are looking for ANYTHING to claim someone is racist or sexist or whatever.

By the end of this I just hope we can come together.

Frustrated.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:10 PM
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1. That is the most homophobic post I've seen
in a long time.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:13 PM
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2. No way! It's far more anti-semetic than homophobic!
n/t
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Konza Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:13 PM
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And what do you have against the elderly?
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:28 PM
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24. And what's with the constant bashing of Christians? n/t
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Popol Vuh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:44 PM
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30. Its probably reactionary
From all the laws and attempts at more laws from Christians insisting upon shoving their Religion down other people's throats. Also, from hundreds and hundreds of years of Christians bashing, ridiculing, torturing and murdering Atheists and all other none believers of the Christian Bible.

Just saying.... :shrug:


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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:13 PM
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3. Obviously, you're deliberately eliding class nt
:sarcasm:
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:15 PM
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4. Hey, that rug was getting pretty bumpy
It's there and it's getting aired. In the long run, it's a good thing. If you're misinterpreted, just explain yourself and let it go.

(And no I do not support what whack job Donnie McClurkin said so don't even bother.)
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:15 PM
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5. Personally, I'm not even gonna challenge DUers on any of this
at this point. I tried, and all I got was called names. There are too many agendas beyond my control. Obama would prefer Unity, and so I will oblige.

I'll talk about it with those who understand that talking doesn't mean fighting.

I'll pray about it.

Signed,
I'm frustrated too.

PS. First time in my life I have been accused of racism. As a 49 year old Biracial black woman who emmigrated here from Europe, I'm stumped.

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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:17 PM
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6. we don't agree on much, but it is not possible for a non-white person in America to be racist. nt
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:21 PM
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7. Are you serious?
I know some seriously bigoted blacks. Not as many as bigoted whites, but then I know more whites.

So far as I can tell, asshole behavior is universal.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:46 PM
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11. I didn't say bigoted. nt.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:49 PM
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13. Can you explain the difference?
Racism versus bigotry?
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:57 PM
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14. racism is the combination of bigotry and the personal and/or institutional power
to affect policies that solidify the perceived racial superiority.
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:17 PM
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20. That's far more narrowly defined than I had realized.
Thanks!
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:27 PM
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9. If you believe that you haven't met some of
my relatives.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:46 PM
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12. being a bigot and being a racist are completely different. nt.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:26 PM
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8. Until every last one of us confesses each and every -ism we harbor and the Inquisition is complete!
Denouce yourself, your parents, their parents, your children, friends, neighbors, enemies, foetuses, frozen foetuses, future borns, and the dead! J'accuse away!!!!!!
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:59 PM
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17. The poor victims of the Inquisition
:eyes:
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:18 PM
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21. Hmmmph! I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition
:hide:
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:30 PM
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26. "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!" n/t
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riqster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:36 PM
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28. *rim shot nt
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:42 PM
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10. I think it's quite easy...
unless of course one chooses to post a disgusting display of vernacular poison. It sure has compelled me to do everything I can to make sure the sentiments expressed, are dispersed far and wide to highlight the level of disparity expressed by some members of the democratic party.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:57 PM
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15. It helps not to say racist or sexist stuff when you're aiming for that
:shrug:

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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:58 PM
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16. Apparently you can't even "not" say something without being called racist too!
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:01 PM
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18. Trust the Clintons to stir up the shit pot.
One more reason to never, ever return to a place called Arkansas.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:07 PM
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19. You mean the man many people consider l the "first Black president?"
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:19 PM
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22. Because he got on a talk show and played the trombone?
He also executed Ricky Ray Rector as a campaign stunt and that was just the beginning of a long list of abuses including "reforming" welfare and pimping NAFTA.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:26 PM
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23. Because many African Americans have said they consider him the first Black president.
Are you suggesting they are easily fooled?
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:28 PM
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25. I'm suggesting anybody can say anything
and repeat it endlessly. Also, it wasn't particularly funny back in 1996 or whenever they rolled it out.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:32 PM
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27. It is no joke.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:39 PM
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29. That might be your perception
but the specifics are a little thin.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:51 PM
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31. Just one of References to A American regard for Glinton:first Black president.
as you will note though Maxine Waters doesn't agree.

Clinton Honored As 'First Black President' at Black Caucus Dinner
By Marc Morano
CNSNews.com Senior Staff Writer
October 01, 2001

(CNSNews.com) - Former President Bill Clinton was honored as the nation's first black president Saturday at the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) Annual Awards Dinner on in Washington, DC.

The chair of the all-Democratic caucus, Rep. Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Tex.), told the crowd that Clinton "took so many initiatives he made us think for a while we had elected the first black president."

Clinton, who has spoken at the caucus every year since his 1992 election, made reference to the September 11th terrorist attacks, saying that black Americans have seen these kinds of religious tactics before.

He described the terrorists' philosophy as "somebody who thinks that only people in their community count and we're not part of their community; that only their reading of the scripture counts and we don't read the way they do. We have been on the other end of that, and we say no, no, no."

Clinton said Arab Muslims and non-Arab Muslims who don't agree with the terrorists are considered apostates who have walked away from the faith. "And those of us who don't happen to fall in those categories are infidels and all of us are fair game."

"We have heard this story before. We want the America we see in this room tonight. We have come a long way from the time when people in our country thought it was all right to kill the innocent."

Clinton told CNSNews.com he was honored to be considered America's "first black president."

"I think it's a function of the work I have done, not just as president, but my whole public life to try to bridge the racial divide and the fact that even when I was a little boy I had friends who were African-American," he explained.

Clinton said that while he misses being president he has "a wonderful life now and I had the time that was allocated to me under the Constitution." He explained, "I have no regrets and I'm trying to go on and play a constructive role as a citizen now and I am quite happy with it."

He added, "I am happy in Harlem and I am honored to be thought of as the first black president."

Actress Vivica A. Fox gushed that President Clinton "spoke so wonderfully and made us African-Americans feel more a part of American society. I miss him so much."

Rep. John Lewis said Clinton "has the rare capacity of connecting with African- Americans. He understands the hopes and dreams and the frustration of African- Americans. We identify with him and he can identify with us."

Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) said, "God bless him, he got tonight what he really deserved, which is a thank you."

However Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) said she has no idea what people mean when they talk about Clinton being "the first black president. "I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means," she commented as she walked away.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-12-08 12:50 AM
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33. Here is the origin


Toni Morrison (born Chloe Anthony Wofford on February 18, 1931), is a Nobel Prize-winning American author, editor, and professor. Her novels are known for their epic themes, vivid dialogue, and richly detailed African American characters; among the best known are her novels The Bluest Eye, Song of Solomon, and Beloved, which won the Pulitzer Prize for Fiction in 1988. In 2001 she was named one of the "30 Most Powerful Women in America" by Ladies' Home Journal....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toni_Morrison
...Morrison caused a stir when she called Bill Clinton "the first Black President;" saying "Clinton displays almost every trope of blackness: single-parent household, born poor, working-class, saxophone-playing, McDonald's-and-junk-food-loving boy from Arkansas."<10> This opinion was adopted by Clinton supporters like the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC)<11> or ridiculed by critics.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 04:55 PM
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32. Here's something that may help...
Here's something that may help...

Consciously avoid saying anything that may be misconstrued. Simply think about what you're saying and who you're saying it to. After a while it becomes habit, and you'll never piss anyone off for saying something racist/sexist.

Shouldn't we be thinking carefully about what we say regardless?
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