Hillary- "No Woman Is Illegal"

[DemocratSinceBirth]

In broken English, one woman told Clinton how she wasn't making money as a broker anymore.

"I have no income at all," she said. "So how will I survive?"

Choking up with emotion, the woman said, "In my neighborhood, there are brand-new homes, but the value is nothing. I'm glad you are here so I can tell you, because you're going to be the president, I know."

A man shouted through an opening in the wall that his wife was illegal.

"No woman is illegal," Clinton said, to cheers.

More:


In the restaurant's foyer, Ruben Beltran, 53, was carryng a "Culinary Workers for Hillary" sign. He didn't know where it came from; someone had given it to him.

Beltran said he was not worried about going against his union leadership.

"People know that Hillary is the best choice for real," he said. "They try to confuse the workers, but the workers are smarter."


http://www.lvrj.com/news/13702902.html


Let Senator Obama have the endorsements of the unions and the powerful politicians...Hillary has the people....

Viva Hillary!

[William769]

1. Just another reason to love Hillary.

Thanks for posting.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Your Welcome

~

[twiceshy]

16. She's right, humans are not illegal....

however the actions people take may indeed be illegal - such as entering a country with no authority.

[Fredda Weinberg]

22. Love the sinner. I think HRC got it. n/t

[Cornfields_4_Peace]

34. Sadly I don't think some care if they enter illegally

as long as they can buy their votes and exploit their below living wage.

[LiberalFighter]

40. Illegals can't vote. Only legal citizens can vote.

[Cornfields_4_Peace]

66. Very true

but many people want illegal immigration and they will vote for those who pander to keeping a source of below the living wage workers available.

[MethuenProgressive]

2. "They try to confuse the workers, but the workers are smarter."

Viva Ruben!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

4. Si

Viva Hillary!

[I work for workers]

5. "A man shouted through an opening in the wall that his wife was illegal."

???

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. I Can Understand The Reply But Not What Prompted It

Maybe he just had a fight with her?

[I work for workers]

20. Yeah, I was confused by that. Maybe he wanted help getting her legalized? nt

[DEMocracity]

56. I don't know the actor's real name

but in the Clinton script for today he's simply listed as "Man yelling through hole" in the credits.

[Cameron27]

63. Who are you supporting?

Whoever he is, you're not helping him.

[Anouka]

6. edit: what exactly is Hillary going to do to resolve the illegal immigrant situation?

i put 'roll eyes' before, but as much as i feel that about her comment, it doesn't resolve anything.

and i'd like resolution to the illegal immigrant situation that is satisfying to citizens, legal immigrants, people who want to come into the country legally but are being pushed aside by illegal immigrants and stingy quotas, and illegal immigrants (who are taking resources from legal citizens and legal immigrants).

sincerely,
Anouka
who is extremely worried about
legal citizen poor and working poor
upward mobility and survival;
and non-citizens being allowed
to flaunt laws legal citizens cannot

[William769]

23. I suggest you check out her web site, she has a section on that very issue.

[desi]

7. Thanks...

just THANKS...:toast:

[cali]

9. That's a great thing for Hillary to say. n/t

[boricua79]

10. no human being is illegal

and let's not get carried away. Hillary is no friend to Latinos. She waffled on a lot of issues affecting Latinos in NYC, and a I remember that she wasn't particularly supportive of Puerto Ricans on the island of Vieques when the U.S. Navy was using depleted uranium and condemning the island's residents to an eternity of higher cancer rates and genetic mutations/diseases. She only "came around" when she realized the major political gaffe she had committed and felt she'd lose the Latino vote in NYC.

Hillary is a two-faced politician, first and foremost. She goes where the wind is blowing. I'm very convinced that if 95% of Americans felt the Navy should stay in Vieques, but Puerto Ricans felt otherwise, she would have called for the Navy to stay. The moral position on what was right or wrong wouldn't have mattered. She's not someone of conscience, who would be willing to end up in jail (as many priests, and activists did in Vieques) for what's right. She does what is convenient and politically advantageous.

And, frankly, I hate "leaders" like that. That's why she won't get my vote.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. All Politicians Have To Balance Competing Interests

But Hillary has always been a friend to the Hispanic community, the African American community, the gay lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered community,and the community of children...

[Anouka]

21. Not supporting retroactive sentencing is NOT being a friend

to the African American community.

Lapsing into plantation talk ('I ain't no ways tired') to fool the natives doesn't cut it; particularly given the racist jib of her and Bill's attacks on Obama.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

26. Just Enjoy The Ride

Hillary is soon to be 44...

Viva Hillary!

[DURHAM D]

39. Bill and Hillary are not racist.

You are not helping Obama by being so divisive.

Who/what are you really?

[boricua79]

28. if you say so

and some politicians don't waffle on whether or not it's morally right to support the end of U.S. navy bombings in Vieques. She waffled because she was worried WHITE Americans would tar and feather her as "unpatriotic" or "unsupportive to the armed forces". She decided, in the end, that the fear was unfounded (based on polls suggesting Americans were supportive of the Vieques campaign for justice), and that she had more to lose from a loss of Puerto Rican votes in NYC (in particular).

It was cost-benefit all the way...not a "right or wrong" calculation.

That bothers me. i vote for people of conscience..not people of cost-benefit formulas.

[desi]

55. Wow, I'm sorry I missed this.

I wonder if you have any idea who it was who FINALLY started the ball rolling on the Vieques/Navy issue.

[Texas_Kat]

62. Actually Latinos in this state think she is wonderful

Bill Clinton did a lot for the Rio Grande Valley and South Central Texas during his tenure in the White House. Attention to that part of the country has been sorely lacking in the last decade. Hillary is especially remembered very fondly.

The first Hillary for Prez meeting I attended was organized by 3 Latinas. They were grand ladies and were totally committed to HC. They had an amazing network of like-minded friends and extended family members. I have no doubt this resurgance of a candidate the Hispanic population can relate to in Texas is going to help down ballot candidates.

These ladies know how to mobilize!

[Cameron27]

11. Yea!

K&R

[rodeodance]

12. Clinton said, "I feel so strongly that if we don't take care of our children, we don't take care of

.......Santana told Clinton how his wife, Elizabeth, a housekeeper on the Strip, was barely supporting the family single-handedly while he was unable to work for two months because of an operation.

"We're sort of struggling," he said. "We're getting there, but you have to be strong to make it."

Clinton asked the couple questions about their mortgage and his disability payments, and answered his questions about immigration and the war and health care costs.

Stroking the 4-year-old girl's head, Clinton said, "I feel so strongly that if we don't take care of our children, we don't take care of our future."

Santana said, "We are going to do everything we can to make sure that everyone in Las Vegas votes for you."

That is the warm, earnest, human side of campaigning, politicians comforting people with detailed explanations of how they will solve their problems and flattering them with their presence.

[Dhalgren]

13. I'm telling you, if Clinton takes charge of her message and lets

her real self show through, she will be hard to stop. I am against her policies, her stands on issues and her politics, but she is a force to reckoned with and I am not sure any of the other candidates have what it takes to contend with her. She is definitely the "Big Dog" in this hunt...

[goldcanyonaz]

14. She takes a licken and keeps on ticken.

[Dhalgren]

18. As a matter of fact, she comes back stronger. And that is a problem

For all of the other campaigns. The other candidates have to fight her on the issues, on her policies and her positions; they cannot go personal or negative with her - she just gets stronger if they do. And if the other candidates have not learned this lesson, they will be stumping for her next fall...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. Maybe She Will Govern More Liberal Than She Runs

~

[Dhalgren]

37. I don't really think that it is a question of her being "liberal" -

I think that she is very "liberal" on a great many issues. The problem is corporate control of this country and what that means to the average citizen. I do not think that Clinton will do anything to deal with this - even if she acknowledges that it is a problem (which she hasn't done, yet). Neo-Liberals are almost as bad as neo-Conservatives. Their imperialistic designs are just as onerous and will not solve the world's problems - only make them worse.

I view Clinton as a corporate candidate and as such I cannot support her, but I do agree that as far as simple "liberalism" goes, she is very liberal.
(I also cannot stand the personal attacks on her - and the stupid, sexist smears that seem to be the Obama campaign's only means of dealing with the Clinton campaign. I could never support Obama, either...)

[Little Star]

44. To me they are exactly the same on policy. Sexism, not so much.

[TwilightZone]

38. History would pretty much guarantee that.

Campaigning and governing are two different things. Campaign in the middle; govern to the left.

[Big Blue Marble]

48. You mean the way Bill did?

[codeindigo]

15. awesome!

hillary "the people's candidate!" :think:

[totodeinhere]

19. A step in the right direction, but...

Hillary's humane comment was laudable. But I still have trouble with her blatant waffling on the issue of drivers licenses for undocumented residents. She still needs to do more work on this issue. And while her comment will play well among Hispanics in Nevada, I wonder if Hillary would have made the same comment in a state like South Carolina.

[DURHAM D]

41. She doesn't need to clarify her position on drivers license.

It is a state issue - not a federal issue.

Saying she needs to clarify her position is a rightwing talking point.

Also, many states have already addressed the issue of licensing undocumented citizens - they are just simply doing it.

[totodeinhere]

45. You misunderstood me

I didn't mean it to be a right wing talking point. I meant it as an Obama supporter who appreciates that Obama has always supported licenses for undocumented people, whereas Hillary has changed her position on it. In the Philadelphia debate, she said she supported Spitzer's plan, then in the face of political heat she changed her position a few days later.

And whether it's an issue best dealt with by the states or not, how our next president approaches this issue will be very relevant IMO. After all, if Congress finally passes an immigration bill the president will have to sign it, or not. Drivers licenses for undocumented people is a part of the general debate about immigration that we are having in this country right now, and our next president will be right in the middle of it.

[Wisconsin for Hill]

24. Hillary is absolutely wonderful.

It's moments like these that give me shivers about our next President.

[Beacool]

25. Thank you for posting this nice article.

Lately, I feel that in this board the Hillary supporters are a minority and that she's being treated here almost as badly as she is treated by the MSM. Sad.....

[ccpup]

27. in many ways,

DU has BECOME the MSM. It's often worse here than it is on those Sunday Morning I-can-yell-louder-than-you Talk Shows with very little substance and tons of poorly informed people pontificating about why their candidate is better and yours is the Devil.

[DURHAM D]

42. This board has always been anti-Hillary.

It is not representative of the party or the country. At least 40% of the posters on DU are not Dems.

[Colobo]

29. Obama y Clinton tienen la misma posición sobre la inmigración

ilegal. ¿Qué es lo particular aquí?

[JVS]

32. huh?

[BeyondGeography]

46. He said they have the same positions on illegal immigration

so what's the point?

[JVS]

57. thanks

[Beausoir]

30. LOVE it! I feel the same way. No person is illegal.

[calteacherguy]

59. Why did she say "woman?" That's weird. nt

[Bunkie0913]

33. Recollection

I'm sure I recall Dennis Kucinich responding to a question about illegal immigration "There are no illegal humans". Hillary is wise to take pointers from the candidate for true change, the candidate striving to hold the current administration accountable, to end the Iraq occupation, to get us out of NAFTA, true universal single-payer healthcare. Those are all issues with which she has had difficulty making good decisions.

[rocktivity]

35. Save the corn for when you campaign in the Midwest, Hillary!

Why didn't she say, "No ONE is illegal?" Because she's playing variations on her "crying game" already. Is she including Monica Lewinsky, by the way?

Okay, I'll take a time out and go sit in the corner...

:spank:
rocknation

[DURHAM D]

43. Stick it. n/t

[creeksneakers2]

36. A great moment for Hillary

And a gutsy stand in the current environment.

[Catherine Vincent]

47. That's a good one!

:thumbsup: for Hillary!

[slackmaster]

49. Pandering to illegal immigrants is NOT the way to win the Hispanic vote

It's a big misconception, and I think it's racist at its core.

Most US Hispanics are citizens. They were either born here, or immigrated legally. And they do not universally support people who are not here legally. A lot of them downright resent illegal immigrants.

[Barack_America]

50. Interesting point. Thanks.

Again, I ask, why is she so fucking awkward with minorities??

[slackmaster]

52. Frankly I think her awkwardness reflects basic insincerity

She's not awkward on her truly heartfelt views.

[Barack_America]

53. I think her *people* are misinforming on how to appeal to minorities...

In my heart, I don't feel that Hillary is racist. Buuut, I'm really starting to think people in her campaign are. Not openly racist, of course, but that Northeastern, covert, "minorities are just different" type of racism. It's showing up in her campaign with increasing frequency and it's not doing her any favors.

It honestly seems that her handlers have convinced her that she has to act differently around minorities and it comes off really badly.

[slackmaster]

54. You're probably right

The unfortunate aspect of it is that she has no clue herself.

[Cameron27]

64. I think you're way off base,

and I completely disagree with your opinion.

[Joe the Revelator]

51. I find this sexist

She gives woman a pass while deporting fathers? Goose and Gander time.

[calteacherguy]

58. Is any man illegal? WTF was she saying? Truly bizzare statement. nt

[question everything]

60. If you will read the post you will understand (nt)

[question everything]

61. If you will read the post you will understand (nt)

[JVS]

65. Now that is some fine pandering