South Carolina Primary Will Use Paperless E-voting

[meegbear]

Article: November 18, 2007

The 2008 Presidential election may hinge on a primary in which the votes are recorded and tabulated exclusively by paperless electronic voting machines.

South Carolina's primary will be pivotal in the nominating process of both major parties. South Carolina uses a paperless touch screen system statewide, the ES&S iVotronic. It is apparent from the state Election Code that this is the system used for primary elections (section 7-13-1900).

Paperless e-voting is reckless in any right, but the iVotronic has managed to become notorious on its own terms.

It is the machine of Sarasota 2006 fame, producing 18,000 undervotes in Florida's 13th Congressional District, as well as high undervotes in other races in six Florida counties that used the machines. It is the same machine whose firmware version 8.0.1.2 was described by Princeton University computer scientist Edward Felten as "terribly insecure" and in need of serious improvements before it used in another election.

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http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2653&Itemid=113

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[texpatriot2004]

1. No Transparency = No Democracy nm

[zanne]

2. Oh crap.

Will we ever be able to trust election results again?

[halobeam]

3. I have just tried to respond to you a number of times and I find

I'm getting so angry, I kept deleting it. I'm angry because we can not trust any election results and it will never be trusted again unless the people take to the streets and demand transparency. The problem with this is, well, after 2000 and 2004, if so many Americans didn't "get it" then, I'm afraid of what it would take in order for them TO get it. Chances are, others call the shots and will continue to do so until they are stopped. We have a LONG way to go. I think we may address global warming before that occurs. How's that for a bleak outlook?

Sad times.

[napi21]

4. If you want auditable ballots in SC, all you have to dois insure a Dem

wins the General Election! The people there are primarily evangelicals of the strongest order, and as long as a Pub keeps winning office, they will not have a problem with the voting machines. If they lose JUST ONCE he machines will be changed in very short order!

[zalinda]

5. Except not all dems are aware

or at least don't seem to be aware of what is going on. Kucinich and Edwards has been the only ones talking about paper ballots.

zalinda

[napi21]

6. When I lived there they used punch cards! Seems like they went from bad to worse! n/t

[1corona4u]

7. Perhaps those were the only candidates you were paying attention to

but they are not the only two talking about it;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDfqqKurwv8

[zalinda]

10. He's not in the race anymore

which is a pity.

zalinda

[Kucinich4America]

21. How can you insure that a Democrat wins the General Election

When you can't even insure a Democrat wins the primary??

[suston96]

8. I expect Obama and McCain to win in SC. But no paper trail is bad news anyway.

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

18. Yeah, I see this is "candidate-independent"

For the very health of our democracy, we need to have systems that produce a clear paper trail that can be audited. Touch-screen voting systems, especially the hackable ones being used in SC, are just not acceptable.

[KittyWampus]

9. My vow, to keep this kicked, because it has nothing to do with which candidate wins

on unaudited and/or paperless electronic machines. It has everything to do with Democracy and Integrity.

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

14. I'm with you

Folks, no matter which candidate you support, you have to fight hard for transparency. A sense of disenfranchisement leads to rioting or even violence as we've seen in Kenya-- push for paper ballots in SC, do whatever you have to do, protest, disrupt the state legislature, whatever. We have to move immediately!

[K Gardner]

11. My head just exploded. I have no words. (enjoy it while it lasts, doesn't happen often)

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

12. Any Dems in SC, push hard to move to paper ballots that can be audited, now!

This cannot be allowed to happen again.

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

19. I heard though can't confirm that a petition is circulating for this,

but a petition is not enough. People in SC-- go to the statehouse and put tough pressure on them to demand paper ballots, counted twice!

[balantz]

13. What The F**k!

:banghead:

[sandnsea]

15. This is very discouraging

We have got to get paper ballots and automatic audits. I hope the hand count people are happy.

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

16. Shows lessons are not being learned

No democracy without transparency

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

17. Any updates on this?

Caught the tail end of some comment about the election commission changing their plans on the radio. Any truth to it? Anyone in SC with details?

[Kucinich4America]

20. Time to break out the bats

And I don't mean, in the Howard Dean sense.

Smash these foul electro-fraud devices, force them to use paper ballots.

[jenmito]

22. Damn. Isn't it strange that Obama won in NH precincts where they used PAPER ballots and Hillary

won where they used electronic voting machines? Hmmm...