John (I'm Not Gonna Stand Up for Free Speech) Kerry Endorsement of Obama Clearly Demonstrates Obama

[DaLittle Kitty]

Is NOT Really about Change ... AT ALL! This is just one more example of "The Status Quo" jumping aboard the current bandwagon Corporatist Candidate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bVa6jn4rpE

John Kerry was at one time a leader... and actually had a Spine... We all are aware when that time was... Today is not that time.

John Kerry was NOT a leader when speaking at the University of Florida when he allowed what is clearly demonstrate in the video posted above... to take place.

Speaking at The University of Florida John Kerry chose NOT to stand up for this young man's right to speak his mind. Spineless...

This was John Kerry who was not quick and strong enough to speak up and instruct the Rent a Cops to unhand the young man...:shrug: rather than wrestle the man to the ground for asking some perhaps uncomfortable questions. Spineless...

So Who was in control? Not the former Presidential candidate, that's fer sure! :dunce:

This John Kerry was the candidate for President who might well be President today had he listened to his then running mate, John Edwards who strongly advised Kerry to contest the today widely known election disparities in Ohio... leaving us w/ Chimp as our POTUS for the past 4 years?:dunce:

John Kerry who retired from the campaign with $13 MILLION DOLLARS... left idle in the campaign coffers. :spank:

So is John Kerry really a guy you want to endorse your campaign for President if you are running on a platform, real or not, yours or plagiarized... as an Agent of Change?

I THINK NOT!


John Edwards is the sole disciple of Change in this election...:patriot:

To SPEAK the word change does NOT transform one into an Agent for Change.:eyes:

To PAINT the Word Change on your campaign bus... does NOT transform one into an Agent for Change. :nopity:


To step front and center and directly confront Corporate America's greatest barriers to change ... and NAME Names... That demonstrates courage and Backbone...

That my friends is an Agent for Change. That Agent for Change is... John Edwards:)

[MadBadger]

1. You're a little late to the Kerry Smear party.

[babylonsister]

2. Yawn. nt

[NYCGirl]

3. I'm getting a whole lotta use of this picture today:

[AzDar]

4. Yep.

:kick:

[sabbat hunter]

5. why would you reject

endorsements? endorsements that bring in cash to the campaign, may sway voters, etc?

[DaLittle Kitty]

28. Long Run It Helps Edwards.. Kerry Is A Penultimate DLC'er... Read STATUS QUO, So Who Is

For Change now? It ain't Barrack and it ain't HillBill! :)

[Bongo Prophet]

36. "Kerry Is A Penultimate DLC'er" -- Ohhhhhkay...that tells me a LOT!!1!

"I do not think that word means what you think it means."


:dunce:

[politicasista]

6. Yawn

:boring:

[Bicoastal]

7. Oh GOD.

I knew one of those "The 'Dont tase me bro' guy is a HERO!" nuts would crawl out of the woodwork sooner or later today.

You're absolutely right. John Kerry is the worst President we ever had.

And guess what, if he had endorsed YOUR guy, you would be singing his FUCKING praises right now!

Asshole.

[politicasista]

9. Exactly

:toast:

[FrenchieCat]

8. You just smell sooooo

Jell-ous!

[avaistheone1]

10. Mr Scull and Bones embarrassed himself today.

Kerry just handed Obama his corporatist crown.

[DaLittle Kitty]

23. Officially Yes, I handed it to Obama Some Months Ago... Corporatist #2

Hill Bill Still retains the Corporatist #1 Crown... Obama does not even begin to understand what is happening to him...

Watch Johnny on Tuesday night... It is gonna be fun! :)

[madeline_con]

11. Thank you! Go John Edwards!

Finally, someone has said what I've been thinking... why didn't Kerry just say,"Let him go, I'll answer." ???

That has always bothered me a great deal.

[karynnj]

27. He did - and it's on the tape

This was after letting him speak in the first place

[madeline_con]

33. He said he'd answer, but then let them chase the guy out. n/t

[emulatorloo]

12. UGH -- he's free to endorse who he wants. And has done more for FREE SPEECH

than either you or I will ever do.

BTW, don't you know that the "don't taze me bro' person staged the whole thing to attract media attention? Do a little more research on it. Kerry has always been open to taking questions and dialoging with protesters.

[madeline_con]

16. Aren't most protests to attract media attention?

Isn't that the point?

[DaLittle Kitty]

25. This Young man Was Trying To Make A point By Getting Kerry ON RECORD Answering A Pointed ?

John Kerry was not man enough to call off the Rent a Cops and Answer the student's questions. The kid did absolutely nothing except speak his mind... Free Speech... Use it While ya Still Got IT! :nuke:

[madeline_con]

34. We're in agreement here. Do you realize that? n/t

[Adelante]

40. John Edwards and protesters - CALL THE COPS

He even said AIDS and cancer sufferers belonged in jail if they used medical marijuana. What a guy!

Of the leading candidates, Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry and Gen. Wesley Clark have pledged to end the Bush administration’s raids on medical marijuana patients and providers. North Carolina Sen. John Edwards and former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean — who blocked a Vermont medical marijuana bill in 2002 — have not. Edwards has said it would be “irresponsible” to stop arresting medical marijuana patients.

http://www.mpp.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=glKZLeMQIsG&b=1173731&ct=1973545

Campaign Expels Dissenters From Public Space

Exeter, New Hampshire — During a public meeting hosted by his campaign yesterday, staffers for Democratic presidential candidate U.S. Sen. John Edwards (D-NC) had police eject Granite Staters for Medical Marijuana (GSMM) leafleters from the Exeter Town Hall building. This is the latest development in a series of incidents in which Edwards’ campaign workers have attempted to block GSMM members from peacefully protesting his position on medical marijuana in public spaces.

In past statements, Edwards has seemed supportive of dissenters’ rights to free expression. During his February 3, 2003, appearance on the MSNBC show Hardball, Edwards was questioned about several anti-war activists who were allegedly arrested outside Edwards’ office while protesting his stance on the Iraq war. Edwards seemed to defend the demonstrators’ rights to express their views, saying, “My response is you have every right to voice your view, I’m glad you’re here tonight. You have every right to protest it anyplace that you’d like to protest.” Edwards continued, “That’s one of the great things … about democracy.”

But on Tuesday, for the first time during the campaign, Edwards’ staff had police expel GSMM leafleters from a public space. Members of the group were in the midst of distributing flyers that described Edwards’ medical marijuana position to the crowd gathered inside Exeter Town Hall when several members of Edwards’ staff stopped GSMM Campaign Coordinator Aaron Houston, surrounding him. One Edwards campaign worker attempted to grab the flyers out of Houston’s hands, saying, “I need to take that from you.” The campaign staffer also threatened to call the police department. An Exeter police officer arrived minutes later and directed Houston and another GSMM member to move outside the town hall.

-snip

“For a man who claims to be a defender of civil liberties, Edwards seems to be terrified of free speech,” said Houston. “This is just the latest in a series of disturbing events that raise serious doubts about Edwards’ commitment to civil liberties.”

http://www.mpp.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=glKZLeMQIsG&b=1173731&ct=1973535

[Cha]

17. They don't look at anything

past their fucking nose.

[Occam Bandage]

13. Dispatch, we need another one!

[Wisconsin for Hill]

14. Kerry...Obama...big deal.

Kerry is a loser and can't stand a winner like Hillary.

[Occam Bandage]

18. Such a "big deal," in fact, that there have been dozens of posts shrieking

about how little the OP cares.

[Wisconsin for Hill]

22. "shrieking"

How wonderfully misogynistic of you. No wonder you're not supporting Hillary.

[Occam Bandage]

32. You're trying too hard.

[Cha]

15. It does no such thing..

but, this thread shows how disingenously desperate you are.

[MonkeyFunk]

19. LOL!

:rofl: :bounce: :thumbsup:


Good one!


Oh wait... you were serious?! Damn.

[zulchzulu]

20. I didn't realize Senators have police powers and can arrest people

Do you have link where that law passed? I'm sure you do.

:puke:

[DaLittle Kitty]

21. A Leader Would Have Forcfully Demanded That The Cops Cease And Desist!

Leaders Can do that sort of thing you know... It was after all, Kerry's forum.

[ProSense]

24. The measure of a leader and a progressive

Edwards: here and here.

Kerry: here and here.

Kerry is the real deal!

more

[karynnj]

26. Kerry is fine on Constitutional vales including Freedom of speech

The University of Fl incident was not under Kerry's control - he actually asked the police at the beginning to let the guy stay to ask a question - and had he followed the rules, there would have been no incident. it is also pretty obvious to anybody thinking of where they each were, that Kerry did not see or hear what happened.

Kerry led an anti-war movement and was part of the environmental movement. He has spoken of activism as the way to get change for decades - decades when Edwards sometimes failed to even vote.

Obama worked as an advocate on the South side of Chicago - rather than have his first job at a corporate law firm than become a trial lawyer. Obama also passed legislation for health care in Illinois.

Both Kerry and Obama are far more progressive in their records.

As to fighting corrupt government and corporations - does Edwards have anything equivilent to BCCI? Clean elections/clean money?

Obama didn't need to take a job with a Hedge Fund where he worked a few days a month for nearly half a million dollars to learn about poverty - he got that for free on the Southside.

[DaLittle Kitty]

30. Oh Really,, And How Many Times Did Obama Vote To Fund Iraq, Patriot Act, Bankruptcy Bill

and HOW MANY VOTES DID HE CONVENIENTLY MISS? Right... :eyes:

[karynnj]

39. Obama NEVER voted for a bankruptcy bill, though Edwards and HRC both did

As to the Patriot Act, he voted for a revised Patriot Act. HRC voted for it and the original - which only Feingold voted against. This was not a flip flop. Here's a more detailed answer:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3980257&mesg_id=3980865

On Iraq funding, he has voted for insisting on a withdrawal when ever it was up for vote except for Kerry/Feingold. He should have voted for K/F but followed people like HRC. It should be noted that Edwards, who was not in the Senate, did not throw his backing behind Kerry's bill.

His record of missing votes is no different than edwards when he ran.

[Barack_America]

29. The only thing interesting about this post was the variety of smilies used. n/t

[DaLittle Kitty]

31. Smileys Offer a nice accent do they not?

:crazy:

[southerncrone]

35. Edwards is not the sole disciple of change--Kucinich actually has him beat on change.

But DK has been force out into the netherlands of invisibility. Locked out of debates & press coverage, other than silly comments about UFO's. Never to be heard from again by the average citizen.

Unfortunately, Edwards is beginning to face similar treatment.

Have you noticed that he is seldom mentioned now? It's all about HRC & BO, or all the Repukes.
Because JE is standing up for the avg Joe & challenging the corporatists, he is being marginalized just like DK. They are trying to sweep him under the rug, "out of sight, out of mind" treatment, with the focus only on Hill & Obam.

[K Gardner]

37. Just wondering.. ever read: "How to Win Friends and Influence People" ??

[defendandprotect]

38. Didn't Pelosi also nod in some direction today re the candidates --- ???

Agree, John Edwards or Kucinich are the only legitimate candidates ---