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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:50 PM
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Obama is no JFK
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phillyliberal Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:52 PM
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1. yeah
obviously.. there will never be another JFK. Whats your point? Obviously another anti-obama attack.

Heres one for you- Hillary is no Eleanor Roosevelt. Whats your point? These stupid statements mean absolutely nothing, especially when you offer no analysis and throw a youtube link to back your statement up.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:52 PM
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2. And you're no Herman Munster
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:54 PM
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6. lol
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:55 PM
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7. Brawaawa
Touche'
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:01 PM
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11. LOL! That was funny. I like both Herman Munsters.
:)
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:03 PM
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13. Yeah, me too
Couldn't resist.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:53 PM
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3. I saw this the other day, Makes me a little sad.
we lost a good one.
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:53 PM
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4. Actually, I think he is better than JFK in many respects. Morals etc.
I just don't think he can win the Presidency.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:55 PM
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8. Why don't people don't compare Obama to MLK??
I see him more like MLK....
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:21 PM
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27. I guess I'm old-fashioned.........
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 11:22 PM by TheDebbieDee
But I don't like politics in my religion and I don't want religion in my politics.

When I hear Sen. Obama do his speeches, I feel as though he's trying to "sheeple-ize" me, and I just won't have it!

If I want self-help I'll watch Oprah. If I need to be uplifted, I'll go to church.

But I'm far too cynical to want to hear this stuff coming from any political leader.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:26 PM
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30. Yeah, I don't want religion in my politics either...
but I find it fascinating that so much of what Obama says is so much like what MLK said, but no one ever talks about that.....it's as if people purposely avoid saying it.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:17 PM
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22. I don't think that is fair. Obama has had his own moral failings
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 11:19 PM by avaistheone1
with drugs and questionable real estate deals.

I think Obama is a good man and a very smart one. But he is not another JFK, or Martin Luther King.

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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:53 PM
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5. If Obama spoke like that clip
they would call him 'just another angry black man'. I like Obama's approach
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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:59 PM
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10. so do i.
obama is a man running for the presidency who just happens to be black.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:59 PM
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9. HOLY CRAP that's a great clip. Is it on Clinton's site?
powerful
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:02 PM
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12. you got that right...
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:04 PM
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14. And Hillary is no Sir Paul McCartney.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:21 PM
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26. lol! nt
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:04 PM
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15. He's no JQA either
whatchagonnado?

Love him for who he is.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:04 PM
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16. I'm glad Obama isn't JFK- he's never claimed to be- and
while there is much to be admired and respected in JFK, he was a man, an imperfect, inspiring man.

Obama is showing himself to be a man who also inspires people.

It wasn't 'knowing how to fight' that I find most admirable in JFK.

Your linked video doesn't demonstrate the best of him IMO-

:shrug:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:13 PM
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20. jfk did`t have to "fight" because he knew how to exercises power
and he had the luxury of having lbj doing the dirty work for him. he had the power of the senate behind him and he used it wisely.

it`s called speak softly and carry a big stick.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:06 PM
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17.  you are correct
there is really nothing in common with either man...other than they belong to the democratic party.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:06 PM
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18. That's a great video BTW
I love his style!
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Eileen Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:07 PM
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19. You're right!!
That type of rhetoric is far more Edwards style.

Bi-partizanship won't work with thugs so they need to be brought down - not co-operated with while they screw you.


Eileen
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:13 PM
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21. yeah well...considering the source...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4027146
Kerry is damaged goods and has the stench of loser and quitter

I honestly don't think there is much value for Obama to be associated with him aside from his 3 million member email list and fundraising contacts. Look what Gore did to Dean in 2004. Endorsements just don't mean much.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:19 PM
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23. Fighting is against UNITY
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 11:20 PM by kurth
Besides, you don't want to hurt the neocons' feelings.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:20 PM
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24. How long have you been preaching unity, just curious.
DU seems to have changed.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:21 PM
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25. Thinking is against unity too.
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 11:21 PM by avaistheone1
:think:
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:23 PM
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28. Im starting to get the feeling that many DUers are really ONE.
Either that or you all share a brain. Either way, its creeping me out.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:34 PM
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34. LOL!
No, that bunch only shares HALF a brain. And yeah, it's creepy.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:24 PM
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29. I support all the candidates ...
Obama and Clinton and Edwards ....

Obama does in fact at least possess a strong ability to form creative and inspiring political oratory, much like John Kennedy ....

Much more so than any other candidate since Kennedy .... (except Bobby, who was a very inspiring speaker) ...

This is just mean-assed rhetoric ....

I reject it wholly .....
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:27 PM
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31. I reject Democrats using terms like Democrat Disease
against another primary opponent.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:29 PM
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32. Obama is a fighter against Democrats but wants to kiss repuke tail. what gives with him?
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 11:30 PM by jackson_dem
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:33 PM
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33. Its not hard to figure out.
Obama would be a weak GE candidate without all the reaching across the aisle rhetoric. What amazes me is the transformation of many of his supporters from people who chastized any suggestion of bipartisanship to people embracing it.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:36 PM
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35. He should write a new book. The Delusions caused by False Hope
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:43 PM
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36. Obama is no Democrat.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:37 AM
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37. Much easier to fight with the media of the 1960's and the New Deal coalition still in tact
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 12:38 AM by Hippo_Tron
I'm all for fighting but if we do so with the 51/49 majority we have now, that'll be like going to war with the army we have not the army we wish we had. And we all know how that turned out.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 12:41 AM
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38. You're right
He's closer to RFK. And like RFK, the breakaway inspiration of uncountable new voters is significant and you'll never be able to snark that away.
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