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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:11 PM
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Kerry, Edwards........what's the back story here?
On the surface this Obama endorsement seems like a pretty low blow. :(

What am I missing? Seriously. :(
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:13 PM
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1. Just the Status Quo trying hard to be relevent n/t
n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:19 PM
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5. Will Edwards go with Clinton when he drops out?
Do you seriously see him supporting her over the one who has led on setting timelines, filibustering Alito, expanding SCHIP, etc.?
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:24 PM
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7. Edwards is not dropping out
Edwards said he is going all the way to the convention.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:32 PM
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11. He just said Obama stands for change, same as him
Do you seriously think he's going to turn around and join Hillary?

Of course he says he's going all the way to the convention, what the hell do you think he's supposed to say. I'm 99% likely to lose but send me money for this hail mary campaign.

The endorsement was about rejecting the same corporatism all of you say you're against. Not John Edwards.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:43 PM
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17. Kerry/Obama Rejecting Corporatism? WTF? Edwards IS The Sole Opponent of Corp USA!
Check the FEC reports! Do You know that Kerry is a Forbes? His Mother was a Forbes. Kerry is TOTALLY Corporate. So is Obama... Check the Donors!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:50 PM
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23. You are not informed
You really need to check his record. He worked with Paul Wellstone on campaign finance reform. He has attended the majority of global environmental forums for years and years. He wrote the bill that eventually became SCHIP. He wrote the National Housing Trust legislation and continues to fight for that. He is one of the least corporate Senators we have.

Check Obama's Illinois record. He, too, wrote campaign finance reform. He expanded children's health care and low income tax refunds. He spear-headed the legislation to circumvent Bush's overtime changes. He implemented legislation to begin evaluating racial profiling. He helped reform death penalty legislation and passed legislation to videotape all capital murder interrogations. He implemented a study on Clinton's welfare reform because he saw that it was going to hurt a lot of people. He is not corporate either.

You sincerey need to stop listening to campaign bullshit and do your own investigations. There is a difference between doctors and nurses bundling money for you; and standing with people who have been convicted of crimes and are literally making their fortunes taking US jobs overseas, the way the Clintons do.

You cannot listen to campaign propaganda. You have got to take the time to delve through the actual records and read the information for yourself.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:54 PM
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25. Check your facts
Edwards: here and here.

Kerry: here and here.

Kerry is the real deal!
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:15 PM
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2. I just don't think they liked each other that much...
...and that's about it.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:17 PM
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3. Kerry knows 2004 was stolen ....... ?
thinks his weight behind the leading Democratic candidate at this time (and his momentum) might give Obama's campaign enough boost to not let this happen again? Just speculating, please hold back on the attacks DU. ;) Peace.

note: keep in mind the recent N.H. primary results ..... and keep it civil.

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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:26 PM
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9. Kerry gave the monkey another 4 years
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fuzzy otter pop Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:30 PM
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10. that is what iam freekkkinnnggggg sayyyiinnnnnn!!!!!!!!
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fuzzy otter pop Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:36 PM
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13. oh he knew, he was just scared to look like a fool if he went
after them and they had covered there tracks to well

then they would have been right about him
he was scared to loose

and

he was actually just terrified too look foolish in public because

he is really that shallow and insincere

so he took it like a man so he could hang with the kool kids in the senate

and that is why john ran again

he is not like them at all
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:51 PM
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24. Edwards wanted to fight for the people. Kerry fought for his image.
It really is that simple. Our war hero chickened out. It's too bad. He left a dark shadow over his career of good deeds. But at the end of the day, Kerry couldn't pull the trigger. And I think he's projected his dismay at his own shortcomings onto Edwards - blaming HIM for his very own loss. It's a rather sad story.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:17 PM
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4. I think it's more opposition to ugly Rovian politics
which we have seen so much of from the Clintons as well, and the need for MAJOR change in foreign policy, that motivated the Senator. It really doesn't look like Edwards is going to make it, so I don't think Kerry would have been so petty as to endorse just to jab at Edwards. This is a shout out to the entire party. It's Clinton corporatism or the kind of change Kerry has been spearheading since 2004, for sure, and all his life for those who pay attention.
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fuzzy otter pop Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:24 PM
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6. Kerry is truly as shallow and petty
as he seems
on TV
thats the big joke here
the insincerity is not the act
it is the real deal
biden and dodd through in with Clinton and Richardson to try and take out edwards
but Kuchinihc piled on and manged to screw up the little narrative the had going
obama won by to much and they all panicked in the wrong direction



now he is openly calling them all crooks and taunting kerry especially as big coward

the agony of it is these dumb shits actually think Hillery is the best candidate
just like they though it was Kerry

the irony of it all is lost on them

they honestly belive that Obama will keep John out of the lime light long enough
so H will sweep to massive victory. they are stupid beyond all reason

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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:32 PM
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12. WTF ...... I can't make heads or tails of your post?
Did you just attack all of the Democratic candidates in your post? Please try and clarify what your trying to say? Ever hear of a 'run on sentence'? Thanks, and peace.
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fuzzy otter pop Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:38 PM
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14. wtf! rotmfkaiofks!

let me know when you get it.
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:39 PM
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15. Whatever dude ......
just trying to clarify. Peace.
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fuzzy otter pop Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:41 PM
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16. heh, two guys named john...
one is a shallow twit
the other has great hair

if you cant tell the difference

your lost
and can not be found
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doublethink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:44 PM
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18. Let me ask you this ...... how do you spell Huge?
go ahead take you time.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:25 PM
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8. Should have been Edwards/Kerry
Kerry was too lazy to fight. Too busy surfing.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:44 PM
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19. Precisely.
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rodriguez94 Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:47 PM
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20. damn straight....
hero my ass...

he didn't have the backbone to file suit over the Ohio elections let alone the Carteret County, NC vanishing 4000 plus votes one of which was mine!! DAMMMMMMITTTT!

He is a flip flopper evidently! lol... ironically, he is part of the 'status quo'...go figure?

i do wonder however what the real 'back story' is...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:00 PM
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26. "hero my ass..."
You said it, not me.

I know, Edwards wanted to fight for his country but Kerry didn't let him. So exactly did Kerry stop him considering there were candidates from other parties fighting?

Aren't leaders supposed to take initiative?

Kerry did

Blogged by JC on 08.22.05 @ 04:19 PM ET

Fighting for Every Voter

A few more words about an issue that is of the utmost importance to me.

As political candidates, we spend considerable time and effort every election cycle fighting for votes. After the election, whether won or lost, many candidates leave the irregularities of the election behind. But we owe the voters more than that. When voters are disenfrachised, we owe it to them to seek justice and expose the truth. That is why I have been so proud of the Kerry-Edwards campaign's ongoing involvement in the investigation and litigation of what went wrong in Ohio. I wrote to the candidates recently to ask that they continue to be involved in this important endeavor.

This is not about the past. It is about figuring out what went wrong and why -- and then getting the next election right, not for the Democratic Party, but for all of the voters.

link


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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:07 PM
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27. Ever notice
that you get crickets for answering that question?
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:09 PM
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28. My crickets is below at #22
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:15 PM
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29. I need a favor, if possible
I have tried to figure out which law suits K/E joined, which ones they didn't, and the outcomes. I've tried to find it, and never can seem to really get it. I thought they joined 3. I know some people who didn't do a recount properly were convicted, but never saw any evidence that was really anything other than laziness. I sure would like to bookmark something handy to use when these knuckleheads start spouting off.
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phillyliberal Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:48 PM
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21. well
simply, they just didn't see eye to eye on the campaign trail. Both had different views on how they would best get their message across the voters. They didn't really work as a pair. It was more or less Kerry out campaigning some ideas, and edwards out doing others, more domestic issues. It just didn't work out.

thats not saying they aren't solid candidates. both not only great democrats but caring and great individuals.
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balantz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:49 PM
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22. The back story for me is about something that hasn't been answered yet.
What in Democracy's name is the real reason that Kerry suddenly decided to let Bush have four more years? Not a single good thing this man may have ever done can make that one up for this citizen.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:16 PM
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30. Lazy arrogant ass should be relegated to the bins of history
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:19 PM
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31. Edwards RRRAWWWWXXXXX, Kerry SSSUXXXX!!!!! That's not the BACK story, it's the WHOLE story.
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