The "change" bullshit.

[jasmine621]

Unless the Dem candidates begin to talk about the fact that change can only come about with a different mix in the Congress. A President can't deliver change alone...for good or ill.

McCain is taking a chance in hanging his hat on the surge in Iraq as being successful. The numbers of killings are beginning to creep up again and we are still raging war. We are making enemies of those who were working with us. It might sound good and victorius but merely having the deaths move to other areas is not "success" in my mind.

[Tweety]

1. But if you change the way things are done...

that is pretty effective change. The President has the power to persuade congress. The war can be ended.

[demnan]

2. If we had had impeachment

we sure as hell would have had change.

[madeline_con]

3. If the Dems had only grown a set....... n/t

[napi21]

4. Agreed! What exactly would each one CHANGE? n/t

[readmoreoften]

5. None of them are changing shit. It's all a crock.

Edwards might. He seems to have undergone a transformation, but his past concerns me.

[Andy823]

6. That's right

And that's what I want to see more of, telling us "how" they will make the changes. I want specifics, not a lot of words. I want to hear how they will take on the lobbyists, how they will stop corporate america from destroying this country and taking jobs overseas. I want to hear how they will get energy prices under control, and who we can stop our addiction to oil. Not how they will form study groups to "dicuss" it, not how they will bring all the players to the table. NO, I want to hear their "PLAN" to change things, a reall honest plan that makes sense, and specfics on how they will do it! Is that to much to ask?????

[Clanfear]

7. Change has no chance with Hillary.

She is too polarizing a figure.

[CyberPieHole]

8. Obama's talk of "change" is "pie in the sky"...

promises he is making now that he has no plans on keeping...he's not going to be able to reach across the aisle and get repugs to say "yeah, we were all so wrong...let's stop all the corruption~~~end the war~~~let's give out universal health care~~~let's all sit down and sing "we are the world" together. Like that is going to happen. Either Obama is naive or he is a snake~oil salesman. I say he's selling and he's the snake.

[OneBlueSky]

9. one more time . . .

real change can happen ONLY if the critical issues that underlie all other issues (as summarized by Timothy V. Gatto in his recent article entitled The Issues The Candidates Won't Touch) are addressed . . . to summarize once more, these issues include . . .

1. The corporate hold on the American political system.
2. The erosion of our civil liberties.
3. The Military Industrial Complex
4. The Crimes committed by the Bush Administration.
5. The Truth about September 11th, 2001.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_timothy__080109_the_issues_the_candi.htm

from my perspective, Mr. Gatto should have included a #6: The Privitization of U.S. Elections . . .

without addressing these issues, things like the war and healthcare and all the rest have no hope of solution . . . whether our candidate is the senator from New York or the senator from Illinois makes no difference whatsoever, as far as I can see . . . neither will touch any of these issues -- which means that any promises of "change" they make is just meaningless rhetoric . . .

as for John Edwards (who I support) . . . the Chamber of Commerce has already signaled that the powers that be will punish anti-business candidates . . . meaning that Edwards has zero chance of getting anywhere near the White House . . . those same powers have the means to ensure this result (see Elections 2000 and 2004), and they will use it . . .

for those tired of seeing the same message in any number of threads, I do not apologize . . . stripping away all the rhetoric, this is what the 2008 campaign boils down to, and it can't be mentioned too often or too emphatically, imo . . .

[ellisonz]

10. You know...

...they don't call it the Executive Branch without reason!

[cali]

11. Obama knows that.

and anyone following the Congressional races knows that odds are excellent that the Senate will have 4-8 more dems and the House will have 8 to 15+ more dem reps. Have you been following Congressional races?