So If Obama Loses, And Hillary Gets The Nomination, What Are You Going To Do?

[fightindonkey]

Are you going to be a bunch of wimps, and vote elsewhere? I'm curious. Is your loyalty to the party, or just to one person?

[Joe the Revelator]

1. Flame Bait with no basis in reality. This question has been asked a million times

and who knows what people are going to do until we have a nominee. Stop being a putz

[fightindonkey]

9. It's Not Flame Bait, And It's Not A Troll Pole. This Is A Real Question. This Happens

Don't act like Dems have never said this about other candidates. This isn't something out of blue. Obama fans are pretty fanatical, no offense. I'm wondering if they're going to retaliate and not vote for another candidate who may get the nomination and not him.

[indimuse]

36. you are right..

Listening to Ed Shultz today...and some of the callers are very...I'm sorry to say racist...and they were NOT white callers. I;m hearing more and more...I'm scared this may turn into a huge Black vs White (woman) thing..even on C-span I'm hearing a ton of racial comments. Somebody is spreading rumors in SC claiming Hillary is a racist...How come she didn;t cry in public for Katrina victims... and trying to anger SC black voters. I don't like what's going on at all. This race has really gotten ugly..and we are supposed to be better than the righties.

[cali]

41. And what should we be doing with flame bait OPs?

I hope people start alerting on the numerous flame bait threads the OP posts.

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[belpejic]

3. Vote for Hillary. n/t

[Catherine Vincent]

4. I'm supporting whomever wins the nomination. nt

[surfermaw]

29. You got it cat girl, or put up with another republican for 8 more years

[TomInTib]

5. What else could I do? I would move to Costa Rica, of course!

Sheesh...

[bunnies]

65. We're considering Canada.

Mostly for the health care. :)

[George II]

73. Buh bye....

[Vinca]

78. So are we. Sadly, even if Clinton or Obama is elected President,

the chance of getting decent, AFFORDABLE healthcare is remote. We've been holding out moving until the outcome of the next election, but I don't know why. Maybe it's because it's so hard to face the reality that after decades of hard work, playing by the rules and contributing to the country, it has left us high and dry when we need it most. It's very depressing. We might have to wait in line for healthcare in Canada, but at least they'll allow us to get in the line.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

6. You are a singularly divisive and unproductive poster

[fightindonkey]

15. Yes, That's Nice. Cry Me A River. It's A Justified Question. I Would Vote For Obama If Nom'ed.

I'm just curious how passionate Obama fans are. We had the whole Nader thing, so don't pretend that Dems get disgusted about results and threaten to go third party.

[cali]

42. Word:

Alert.

[Occam Bandage]

7. Donate, volunteer, and vote.

What's with all the anti-Obama thread-starting trollspammers?

[Bicoastal]

8. I think Obama people are more likely to stick with the Dem nominee more than anyone...

...simply because most of us probably never thought he'd make it this far. A few months ago, I expected Obama to be toast by now--show's what I know.

So in the meantime, I acclimated myself with Hillary and Edwards, and I'm convinced they'd make good nominees as well--just not as good as Barack. :)

[Catch22Dem]

10. Another dipshit added to the ignore list.

[JackORoses]

11. I would seriously considering voting for someone else just to nullify your vote

How about that FightinAss?

[gateley]

12. Vote for Hillary. And if it's reversed, vote for Obama. nt

[peace13]

13. Cry for the death of America.

I know that is not a good thing to say but I find it impossible to blot out of my mind her selling of Iraq. Her willingness to threaten Iran is rings in my ears. The fact that she made threats about terrorists attacks when she was pinned in a corner in NH says a lot. She is an apple that falls not far from the Bush tree. Too sad.

[bigwillq]

14. I will vote for the DEM nominee.

Unless Gore or Dean run third party! :)

[fightindonkey]

18. Dems Threaten To Go Third Party All The Time Over Issues Like This.

[bigwillq]

27. I will only go third party

if Dean or Gore run! Neither has no shot in hell doing that so I will vote for the DEM on the ballot.

[George II]

74. And they flocked to Nader in 2000

And now we don't have the WTC, 3000 American civilians, almost 5000 American troops (and counting), probably more than 100,000 Iraqi civilians, and our reputation and prestige around the world.

All because many democrats were unwilling to swallow their pride and vote for Gore.

[Richard Steele]

16. I plan to move to Madagascar and teach the lemurs to make fire and simple tools.

Because a Hillary nomination is clearly a sign
that our species is done for, and it's time to
start over from scratch.

[IndianaGreen]

77. Now, that sounds like a plan!

I am sure the lemurs will do a better job taking care of this planet than we did.

BTW, a President Hillary will bomb Iran with tactical nukes just to show a woman can be as vicious and cruel as the worst of men.

[Perky]

17. Vote for Hillary of course.. What will you do if Obama wins?

Be a part of your own self fulfilling prophecy and vote for a republican?

[fightindonkey]

19. No. I'd Vote For Whoever The Nom Is. However, Dems Do Threaten To Go Third Party

When they don't get what they want. It's happened before.

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[Generator]

20. Hara-Kari, obviously

[Barack_America]

21. Vote for Hillary and then CRY when another Republican is inevitably elected...

And I'm not talking about "verge of cry", I mean actual tears. Big ones.

[Kucinich4America]

22. Anybody got some coffee? (yaaaawwwwwwn)

These loyalty oath threads really make me sleepy :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring:

[mrdemocrat78]

23. vote for hillary... as I keep saying

but no one is listening.

[NoBorders]

24. I will vote for Duncan Hunter or write in KKKarl Rove

Flamebaiter.

[kurth]

25. Vote for the non-Republican

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

26. I'll be voting for the Supreme Court appointments

While I truly do not trust Hillary at all, after her blank check to George Bush in the Iraq War Resolution abomination and after she voted in favor of Joe Lieberman's Iran bill, I would still expect her to make far better Supreme Court appointments than any of the Republicans. I think the progressive women of America would charge into Washington D.C. with pitchforks if she appointed right wing justices who overturned Roe v. Wade. I think she's intellectually qualified to be President. But I don't expect her to do the right thing about the Iraq War, about brokering peace between Israel and Palestine, and about a host of domestic issues. I do think however that we can probably trust her on the Supreme Court, which is itself a gigantic issue. So I'll be voting for Hillary Clinton if she's the nominee.

[EVDebs]

28. By then Bloomberg will be 'in' so I hope Edwards will stay in too. nt

[THUNDER HANDS]

30. I'll vote, with zero enthusiasm, for her

which, I think, is something I will share with a lot of people.

[cali]

31. how many times are you going to ask this, ass?

I've answered ad nauseum, but I don't answer asses, I just mock them.

[Honeycombe8]

32. I'm undecided about that. There's time to decide later. The 3rd choice is not to vote, I guess. .

I'll probably vote for her. But maybe not.

I have some serious problems with her politically. I think the Iraq War vote was part of the plan to run for President, when it should've been what's best for the country. I still can't forgive the Clintons for NAFTA, which started the rapid siphoning of jobs to other countries, particularly because there were no wage or environmental controls. And I have a problem with her ins. co./big pharma funding...this means that any resolution of the healthcare problem will be something that ins. cos. and big pharma want.

Also, she favors coal for fuel. "Clean" coal they like to call it now. Just getting the coal from the land is mega-environmentally destructive. AND there is no such thing as "clean" coal. There could be cleanER coal.

Also, I don't really trust the Clintons. They're not always truthful.

So voting for her would be a big problem for me. But if others keep bashing her for being female, I would reconsider.

[sniffa]

33. more unintelligent flame bait.

awesome! :thumbsup:

i plan to see who's running. :hi:

[MessiahRp]

34. The Clintons have only loyalty to themselves and their DLC ilk

Installing these people in to ignore progressives and liberals would be crushing to the party as a whole and frankly voting for a Green Party candidate would be better for the Democratic Party in the long run. So in that sense voting against Hillary is putting party before a single candidate.

The last thing we need is more DLC "centrist" control, more of these Bush Blue Dog types running the show and our party. Just because Republicans are disenfranchised with Bush doesn't mean we need to let them come to our party and dictate to us how we need to rule our party like Conservatives.

Rp

[cali]

35. I'm rooting hard for you to

get some pepperoni, mushroom and anchovies, troll.

[Kucinich4America]

39. Damn, I never thought this day would come

but I'm 100% in agreement with a Cali post!!:wow:

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

50. LOL, and I love Cali.

K4A, that's way cool. :rofl: MKJ

[sniffa]

57. agreed

:thumbsup:

zombies should get something worse than a banning.. like a double or even triple banning.

[Cronus Protagonist]

37. I prefer HIllary over Obama

But I'm still rooting for Edwards.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

38. If Edwards doesn't win, I'll vote for Hillary.....

.... maybe not joyfully, but there's no way in hell I'll waste my vote and thereby help the Repukes!

[ladjf]

40. I would do anything possible that is lawful to prevent having

another Republican President.

[RBInMaine]

43. What red state does Hillary turn blue?????

We MUST win back some red territory, and that means winning ack moderate I's and even some thoughtful R's which Obama can do. That is the risk with Hillary. However, if she is nominated I will work like hell to get her elected because we can not stand four to eight more years of ultra-corrupt Republicanism. That goal transcends all. In the meantime, GO OBAMA !!!!

[dmallind]

80. OH. Probably IA and others too. Same for any viable Dem. NT

LLKJ

[readmoreoften]

44. I'd vote for Hillary over Obama but I don't like either. /nt

[Adelante]

46. Vote for Hillary nt

[alcibiades_mystery]

47. I will enthusiastically work for an vote for Hillary Clinton, who I like

And I will continue to consider fightindonkey, BenDavid, and the other dishonest smear merchants to be scum-sucking bastards.

[cali]

56. can I add to that list? I know I'm flouting the DU rules-

and I'm truly repentent about it, but that list would be incomplete without proud2bamerkin.

[alcibiades_mystery]

67. We can do this without losing our ethical compasses

Many on the Obama side seemed to lose their ethical compasses after Iowa, and the treatment of Sen. Clinton has often been atrocious. I have defended her whenever I saw outrageous smears and dishonest arguments.

But the production from that particular crew has been utterly unconscionable. These people are sick.

[HughBeaumont]

48. Lock this goddamned flamebait NOW!!!

It is not up to the VOTER to capitulate their needs to the party, it's up to the party to listen to their constituents. Otherwise, you're Republicans.

This is NOT "My Party, RIGHT or wrong!!"

:eyes:

[marlakay]

49. sorry can't vote for her, any other dem i would

thats how bad it is...even if repub gets it...i will vote solid dem ticket for congress though...

after what she did to gore i will NEVER help her win...

[TomClash]

51. What will you do If Barack or JE wins? nt

[Alexander]

52. Vote for HRC. That's more that can be said about her supporters here...

Who will whine, cry, pout, throw tantrums and stay home just to avoid voting for Obama.

[Colobo]

53. Vote for her.

[jefferson_dem]

54. You suck.

Boooo...

[cali]

58. brief and to the point. n/t

[jefferson_dem]

60. This OP doesn't deserve any more constructive criticism.

That's a fine avatar ya got there, cali! :hi:

[Wisconsin for Hill]

55. Dance. Sing. Open champagne.

The "I'm taking my ball and going home" Obamaniacs and Edwards people need to get a life and grow up.

[DrFunkenstein]

59. If Not Obama, Then Lyndon Larouche

Just kidding.

As someone who deeply, deeply opposes Clinton's bid for the Presidency - as if hundreds of thousands of lives depended on it, as was the case with her IWR vote - I can say that this is flat out wrong.

If anything, this is Bloomberg's minions trying to float a rationale for his candidacy in the media. He knows that a uniter like Obama makes his whole post-partisan thing irrelevant.

But regardless of which Democrat wins, I think we are ALL going to be fired up behind our candidate. After 8 years of Bush, I think liberals are chomping at the bit in a way that the conservatives simply are not. They are yawning at best with their field of candidates, the holy rollers don't have the same zeal - even if Huckabee was the choice.

I am a big, big supporter of Obama's vision for re-framing the "war on terror," the health care debate, energy independence, anti-nuclear proliferation - and his ability to bring moderates to our side to get things passed in Congress.

That said, I'll inject a healthy dose of sanity for Bloomberg and tell him that regardless of where the nomination process leads, we are itching for a Democratic win and won't rest until we've scratched our way to the White House.

[protect our future]

61. If Obama loses and Hillary gets the nom, I would

vote for her, of course, and then try to find a way back to the dimension/alternate universe I came from.

[SoxFan]

62. "They have a cave troll!"

[JerseygirlCT]

63. Vote for Hillary Clinton, of course!

I'm a Democrat.

[LWolf]

64. The exact same thing I will do if Hillary loses, and Obama gets the nod.

I'll spend some time after the convention deciding between these choices:

A 3rd party vote
An independent vote
Writing in a Democrat that I can truly support.

[Hippo_Tron]

66. I will support the nominee, not so confident you will if Obama wins

[elizm]

68. Ain't. Gonna. Happen. nt

[PassingFair]

69. Probably lose another election.

Live another 4 to 8 years under Republican rule.

[Fresh_Start]

70. two polls already today

each poll 30% said they would not support the democratic nominee unconditionally

[emilyg]

71. You don't deserve a reply.

[yojon]

72. It is true that Obama is a wonderful orator

and that listening to Hillary is like listening to shaking a bag of broken glass BUT, I checked out their voting records in the Senate for the last two years and they are essentially identical. Obama was absent a few more times than Hillary but there was almost no diff in voting between the two. Certainly Hillary is more annoying but her history is quite similar to Obama's!

[IndianaGreen]

75. Why do you care? You already dissed Blacks saying their votes didn't amount much

Fellow DUers, check what the OP said about the Black vote:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4060344#4060386

[Bullet1987]

76. It'll be a cold day in hell before I ever vote for Clinton...

[vee]

79. .

[murbley40]

81. Which ever one of these 2 get the nomination............

We will be more divided than ever. But I'll hold my nose and vote for the nominee, unless there is a good independent who runs.