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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:23 PM
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Here's an Obama smear that I just received today.
As someone who supports Edwards, this is not meant to trash another candidate as what has been happening between the Clinton/Obama camps here at DU. I just checked my email and found this passed from someone who I used to work with and think well of. I'm surprised my friend would be passing this around. I will be replying to her, but I need a few days to think about what to say first.

Before I insert the text, I'll just say, if Virginia had instant run off voting, my vote order would be: Kucinich, Edwards, Obama. I post this only to show what is being said. Virginia is trending blue, but still conservative.


Who is Barack Obama?

Something that should be considered when you make your choice.


If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all
your contacts...it is very scary to think of what could lie ahead for us
here in our own United States...better heed this and pray about it and share it.

We checked this out on " snopes.com". It is factual. Check for yourself.


Who is Barack Obama?
Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu , Hawaii , to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel , Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white Athiest from Wichita , Kansas.
Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii . When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta .
He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim.
He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school."

Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that that he is not a radical. Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta .
Wahabism is the RADICAL ISLAMIC teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran. Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegience nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches. Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential
candidacy. The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States , one of their own!!!!

Please forward to everyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country?...... NOT ME!!!


How ignorant is this?

If anybody in the Obama campaign is reading this, when Obama gives his inspiring speeches, you may want him to give more of his bio. In the south, reading something like Audacity to Hope might be a stretch. Reading problems. Knuckle draggers. That sort of thing.

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fightindonkey Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:25 PM
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1. Yes, We All Got That, And Snopes Did A Whole Thing On It, However, Not Much Is Incorrect
It does take a lot of things out of context though, and adds a bunch of scare tactics. It's typical garbage.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:26 PM
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2. Oh my odds and bodkins!
Do tell! Do tell!
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:29 PM
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4. Not Much is incorrect!?!
Idiot.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:31 PM
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8. Why, that's the same RW meme I got in my email today.. thanks, Hillary supporter.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:32 PM
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9. He is not a radical. Graduated magna cum laude, from Harvard Law School in 1991.
Perhaps our country is a reflection of the leaders we have which is why bush was elected twice. In other words we are rapidly being represented by an anti-science agenda

http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:36 PM
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14. Not much is incorrect?
:crazy:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:28 PM
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3. That's the first time I've seen a pre-emptive maneuver to prevent people from looking up Snopes.
Snopes covers some of the stuff there, so you can embarass them with the fact that they fell for the deception about Snopes. Be sure to reply to everyone they sent it to; make it a public embarassment. Don't take a furious posture; I think it only encourages them to get a rise out of us and the point is to embarass them more than you. Go for the condescending and not fazed posture is what I would do.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:29 PM
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5. This e-mail made the rounds here at DU the weekend before last.
I think snopes.com has debunked this e-mail. Please look it up on snopes.com , paste the link debunking this e-mail into a reply e-mail, and then send it to all the previous receivers of the e-mail.

Add a few words about this e-mail already being debunked, too.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:34 PM
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11. thanks. that is what I'm going to do. The best way to defeat it is to use
facts and that way, I won't offend my friend. Or embarrass her before the others on the distribution list.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:29 PM
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6. This sludge has been posted ad nauseum here. Its been discussed ad nauseum...
Many of us have posted template letters and facts and links. Yes, it is picking up in speed; yes, it is irksome. I've had to deal with it myself. But please, please.. let's stop posting the letter here. It can be found, in its loathesome entireity, on Snopes and MANY other places.
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Dr_Orpheus Donating Member (11 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:30 PM
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7. Your reply should be simple:
They claim this off of Snopes? Point them right to the source, copy text if needed:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

I'm indeed an Edwards man, but this is the bullsh*t that's got to be stopped in its tracks at every single hole it rears its ugly head out of. Sad that such xenophobia thrives even today.
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:35 PM
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13. thanks. I'm taking your advice and the advice of another DUer.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:34 PM
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10. That's the same nasty smear Hillary's people were forwarding around a while back.
Debunk it straight away.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:35 PM
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12. I got this one today, and one on Friday after Iowa a little different
I posted the first one and was called Racist. so I refrained from posting the one above, I know that one came out of the deep south, a state that was once BLUE that is bright red now days Georgia, the other one out of South Carolina.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:38 PM
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15. I got mine from My Republican friend in MD.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:40 PM
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16. The one I got originated in SC and the mailstring included a Senator, TV reporters
and school board officials. I have so many new friends in SC now that they're begging me to take them off "my" rebuttal mailing list.

It helps when you write back to these fools, that you copy the entire mailstring and tell them you're forwarding all email addresses and the slander of a United States Senator to Senator Obama, MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, and their local media. :headbang:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:40 PM
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17. Now why would you feel the need to post this slander?
We've all received them, they've been posted on DU numerous times, do you have a motive? If not, I'd ask that you delete it.
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:41 PM
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19. I kind of asked the same thing, but not as bluntly, so I'd second your request :-)
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:49 PM
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20. BS- Would you feel the same way if this were directed at Hillary?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:54 PM
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23. Absolutely. Anything that is patently false, and I don't care if
it applies to a Dem or rethug, shouldn't be posted here imo.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:08 PM
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24. Glad to hear you say that BS, becasue I sent my MD friend the
real Snopes posting and deleted what she sent me about Obama. She later sent me an apology
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 05:51 PM
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31. Well, babylonsister, that was the first time I saw it, and it wasn't on DU.
The motive was to alert others, particularly those who support Obama. If you read the section after the block quote, you would have known that.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:40 PM
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18. I love how MUSLIM, RADICAL and ISLAMIC are all caps. And the need to mention
his mom was an Athiest. These people....
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:53 PM
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21. What About His Middle Name
That's another dead give away they are trying to smear him by name association.

You don't normally use a candidate's middle name, unless it is a woman who has hyphenated it, like Hillary Rodham Clinton. But when was the last time anyone referred to John Reid Edwards or Michael Dale Huckabee?

I love Obama's first name. It means blessed. Anyone who knows even a bit of Hebrew can figure that out. (I realize his name is not Hebrew, but it's an African or Arabic form of the same word).
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 08:54 PM
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22. A friend at work today said she thinks this is circulated so Obama will lose because GOPers know
Once the real election begins, if she's the nominee they will eat her alive with the same attacks they've always used against her. They don't have much against Obama.

And by the way, I'm an EDWARDS supporter. I want Edwards to win, and hopefully he will.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:12 PM
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25. I heard someone at work call him something I shouldn't repeat.
So I won't. But needless to say, I have lost a lot of respect for him.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:14 PM
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26. Incredibly ignorant
And are they using Muslim as an ethnic term? Because that's just a whole new layer of ignorance.

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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:29 PM
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27. This sounds like the writing of someone
who has watched the Kevin Costner movie Against All Odd's too many time.

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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:33 PM
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28. one of the guys in our shop fell for this...I sent the snopes link to him.
He can't get over his father not being American...that's the one point he focused on.
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whistler162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:38 PM
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29. well....
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 09:41 PM by whistler162
there goes another Rudy supporter down the drain.

<never mind Rudy is the grandson of IMMIGRANTS(the horrrrror)>
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:42 PM
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30. Ignorant, but a Swiftboat attack in the making &some will buy it
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Muddy Waters Guitar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 06:12 PM
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32. That's just flat-out disgusting
Especially the crap about his middle name and the MUSLIM, MUSLIM, LOOK HE'S A MUSLIM shite. Really sad that some would stoop to this.
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