Kerry's endorsement came out of the blue!

[quinnox]

wow, this is another unexpected development. It just keeps getting more interesting. Kerry is a heavyweight and he is endorsing Obama, this may really help Obama.

A lot of twists and turns already in this story. Amazing.

[Missy M]

1. I don't think it matters at all.

[quinnox]

3. I don't know, Kerry might still have a lot of fans

from 2004, and they may give Obama a second look.

[AndyA]

11. I don't think Kerry has that many fans left from 2004.

He kind of crapped on all of us by not ensuring all votes were counted. He was a huge disappointment, and he lost most of his credibility with me when that happened. I felt betrayed, like my vote didn't really matter to him at all.

[MBS]

15. trust me, he does

and he's earned their respect for the way he's fought tirelessly, and with integrity, grit, and class, for our country -- before, during, and after the 2004 election.

[GalleryGod]

31. And...a 3,000,000 voter E-mail list.

as for the 2nd look theory...correct !:applause:

[Kermit77]

14. Good for Kerry

How about an Obama/Kerry ticket? Youth and experience!

[midlife_mo_Jo]

16. I have strong feelings about this

As someone else said on this thread, he crapped all over his supporters last election. And to add insult to injury, many independents and crossover repubs don't like him that much and they're ready to vote for CHANGE - not status quo.

I just don't think this is going to help Obama that much at all, and I feel that strongly.

In the end, I think it's more about Kerry than Obama.

[Big Blue Marble]

18. Don't kid yourself.

it matters because it is good news for Obama. It will gets lots of coverage in the media.
Along with yesterday's endorsement, it helps regain momentum for Obama coming off his loss in
NH.

[MadBadger]

2. It didnt come out of the blue

There was a report prior to the NH primary that made the rounds here that he would endorse Obama after the primary.

[quinnox]

4. huh

I missed that.

[debatepro]

7. I saw it as well...

I can't remember where! TPM? They probably would have used it earlier if they thought they needed the bump in NH. But since the polls were so wrong... they sandbagged it... kerry endorement pre-NH may have helped... hard to know for sure.

[MadBadger]

12. The Field

Al Gioriano, that was the name

[flpoljunkie]

9. Here's the story from the NYT's caucus blog..."endorsement weeks in the making."

The endorsement is weeks in the making.

In the final days before the Iowa caucuses, Mr. Kerry was on the verge of endorsing Mr. Obama, several senior Democratic officials said, but a final decision wasn’t made because it wasn’t clear how it would affect the campaign. So Mr. Kerry decided to hold off on the endorsement until after the New Hampshire primary.

The endorsement ceremony today, on the campus of the College of Charleston, brings the relationship of the men full circle.

It was back in 2004 when Mr. Kerry selected Mr. Obama – then a state senator, vying for a U.S. Senate seat – to deliver the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in Boston. The speech elevated the stature of Mr. Obama almost overnight, launched the reprinting of his book, “Dreams From My Father,” and set his political career in overdrive.

Mr. Obama’s second-place finish in New Hampshire on Tuesday may have slowed some of his potential endorsements, aides said, but several Democrats are expected to announce their support soon.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/10/kerry-to-endorse-obama/index.html?hp

[rox63]

6. I'd been hearing noises like that for a while too

I think he waited until after the NH primary to make sure it didn't unfairly tilt NH too much.

[GalleryGod]

30. I agree.

:bounce: :yourock:

[MeDeMax]

5. I agree with you...

but many Hillovers don't care for Kerry.

Especially now since he has shunned the princess :-)

[GreenTea]

8. It doesn't mean shit- It's not going to help or hurt Obama-But it is a slap in the face to Edwards!

Fuck Kerry he's a fucking moderate just like Obama. I don't vote for status quo moderates.

John Edwards was good enough for VP in Kerry's eyes, but not good enough for prez?

Edwards challenged the weasel asshole Kerry to contest Ohio...but the spineless, elite, frightened fuck Kerry ran away like the moderate dog he is!!

[debatepro]

10. edwards doesn't think it's a slap in the face

Edwards said: “Our country and our Party are stronger because of John’s service, and I respect his decision."

[GreenTea]

13. What the fuck do you expect Edwards to say? Kerry's an asshole?

Shit, Edwards was Kerry's loyal running mate. Edwards is now running for president. Edwards can't say ANYTHING derogatory what so ever, even if he wanted to? People would be all over him in a heartbeat, they are just lying in waiting for Edwards to say anything, he already gets trashed for anything he says or does....Get real you think he could actually get negative even if he wanted to? Fuck NO!

[Dawgs]

17. It's possible that Kerry could like both Obama and Edwards.

Maybe he feels Obama would be better for America. That doesn't mean he doesn't think Edwards is "good enough for prez".

:shrug:

[GreenTea]

20. Your probably right!

Moderates stick together....Edwards has wonderfully overtime evolved into an FDR liberal with a great progress SOCIAL platform and agenda.

A corporate status quo moderate whore like Kerry could NEVER accept the old liberal democratic values & ideology that got this country on it's feet, cared about the workers and the poor, with new visions of social fairness and justice that Edwards processes!

[Big Blue Marble]

21. This is not a putdown of Edwards.

I just heard part of his endorsement speech in NC. He thinks that Obama is a new and different
type of candidate. He thinks he is the best nominee that the Democrats can off the county.
And he wants the Dems to win.

[cali]

19. up is down and black is white. John Kerry is a moderate and John Edwards is a progressive.

That's nothing short of delusional. One of the reasons JK picked JE is because JE was a southern centrist with a moderate/conservative voting record that JK hoped would balance out his own LIBERAL voting record.

And no one has EVER provided any evidence of substance that JE wanted to fight for it. FACT: All the lawyers for the campaign advised against it.

JE is the one with the conservative Senate record.

[GreenTea]

22. Go back into your dream world, and repeat to me as you did that Obama

will take NH and win every state until the convention....Take your pill before we all begin to point and laugh!

[cali]

23. can't refute facts, eh?

and thus you resort to a barely literate and lame personal attack. Let me respond in kind: Did you even graduate from high school? You seem sadly undeducated. Perhaps you made it as far as Community College and remedial English?

I was wrong about Obama winning NH. I based it on polls that had him leading by 10+ points. I never predicted he'd win every state. I was gracious about his loss and congratulated the Clinton supporters and Clinton herself.

You seem to be having difficulty distinguishing between a prediction and a fact. Do try and learn the difference, cupcake.

It's a fact that JE has a moderate Senate record. It's another fact that JK has a liberal one.

Hope that helped.

:hi:

[GreenTea]

24. Enough of you Cali....you're always so painfully funny!

[cali]

25. Can you actually write

more than one sentence? Your limitations are... interesting.

[Clark2008]

33. Funny?

It's funny to be truthful?

Edwards was a moderate-to-conservative Democrat when he was in the Senate. Kerry's far more liberal. I'm not sure where you were from 1998 to 2004, but Edwards voted the DLC line, hook and sinker.

[GalleryGod]

29. Your Avatar would disagree,

Thankfully.

[GalleryGod]

28. Carpet F-Bombing...how nice.

Not help..I disagree*








* 3,000,000 voter email lists.

[frogmarch]

26. I've always liked John Kerry, and

will continue to. His endorsement for Obama doesn't surprise me at all, nor does it anger me. I can see a lot of Kerry traits in Obama. I think it would have been unnatural for Kerry to have endorsed anyone else.

[GalleryGod]

27. Well done & thank you.

And...NO gutter level epithets!

I only wish others would follow your lead, get out a thesarus, and stop using F-Bombs as nouns,verbs, and adjectives.
:shrug:

[Renew Deal]

32. I saw a rumor about this 3-4 days ago.

I think it was on TPM.