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fightindonkey Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:09 AM
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How Nice Of Kerry To Endorse Barack Over His Former VP Running Mate
What an asshole.
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LoveForPeace Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:09 AM
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1. Agreed
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 11:10 AM by LoveForPeace
Classy with a K
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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:15 AM
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14. Where you angry when Gore didn't endorse Lieberman?
The bias around here is painful.
This is good for Obama.
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:44 AM
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27. Lieberman was one of the one's.....
that didn't want Gore to go after Bush in 2000. So I will never blame Gore for backing Dean. Just like Edwards wanted the votes counted in Ohio but kerry wanted to throw the towel in.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:27 PM
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46. I hear 'ya!
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:52 PM
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60. I was angry at Gore for choosing Lieberman as his Veep
Endorsing Dean over Lieberman was redemption.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:10 AM
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2. How Nice Of GoreTo Endorse Dean Over His Former VP Running Mate
What an asshole.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:10 AM
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3. My my. How nice.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:10 AM
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4. Well I'm really for it now, seeing as it pisses you off
What an asshole.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:11 AM
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5. Kerry has a right to endorse who he wants
It's not hard to respect another's judgment even when it's not the same as yours. Try it sometime.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:23 AM
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21. Agreed. And it's not about personal allegence...
It's about who Kerry thinks is best for the country.

And I'm grateful he knows Clinton is NOT.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:12 AM
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6. How nice of the Edwards to go around dissing Kerry when it was
politically expedient.

:eyes:
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:12 AM
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7. I agree, but wouldn't Kerry be one of those "status quo" Democrats?
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 11:14 AM by goldcanyonaz
Edwards doesn't want Status quo, remember?
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:13 AM
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8. Another happy message from "fightindonkey."
Thanks for sharing.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:14 PM
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37. The Guy with the LATE DU arrival DATE and relatively SMALL "post "Count??
So let me get this straight,F.D. ....
You're using a gutter-snipe epithet to characterize a decorated Viet Vet(volunteered),former Party Standard Bearer and a man with a life long record of integrity? OK,sure...also thanks for sharing your analysis.

Saddle-Up,John...and Welcome back to the fight,old friend !!!!!
:bounce:

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:13 AM
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9. Stop making stupid posts.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:13 AM
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10. fightindonkey,
it's not like they were married, and I doubt this is about Edwards anyway. JK supports Obama and wants to help him beat your candidate in SC. Nothing surprising or wrong about it. It's called politics.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:14 AM
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11. Yeah, cuz Kerry's got the Midas Touch
It's like giving somebody leprosy.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:19 AM
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17. yes that's why it's all over the news and the cable networks will cover it live..
Come on now--this is a major endorsement which any of the candidates would love to have (well the Dem ones anyway!).

Edwards looks like he's not going to win the nomination anyway, so I don't see any reason to be upset with this endorsement if you are an Edwards fan. It's a question of Obama v.s. Hillary.

DU's opinion of Kerry is not America's. Not by far.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:23 AM
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20. Yeah, America LOVES the guy
They loved him so much he lost to a retarded chimp (masquerading as the worst president ever) in 2004.

Ex-presidents endorsing candidates before the nomination is complete is just plain tacky, IMHO. It was tacky when Gore did it in 2004, and it's tacky now.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:27 PM
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47. Kerry's not an ex-president.
Bill Clinton, however, is. And it seems as if he's endorsed someone.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:30 PM
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49. Tsk...Tsk

Saddle-Up,John...welcome back to "The Field", Old Friend.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:20 AM
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18. LOL!
nt
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:15 AM
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12. No, Kerry is endorsing who he thinks is best for the job - and I am sure
his personal relationships with Edwards and the Clintons plays a role in that decision.
Disagree with him if you must, but Kerry is not an "asshole" PERIOD.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:15 AM
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13. LOL! He's an asshole because he has an opinion you don't like.
:rofl:
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:18 AM
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15. the man has no shame. The decent thing kerry could have done
was not to endorse anyone, but it is a slap in the face to edwards but what the hell do I know.....

I do know that when kerry's ass was about to lose pa. to bush in 04 I wonder if he thought, maybe I should give obama a call cause he sure as hell gave a great speech at my convention. No, that is no good. Maybe I should call, oh hell I know who to call. And on October 25th 2004 making his first public appearance since heart surgery former president Bill CLinton walked on stage with John Kerry to 50 plus thousand folks in Philadelpia, Pa, and the crowd went crazy.....a week later John Kerry carried the blue state of Pa.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:02 PM
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34. Indeed, what the hell do you know... n/t
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:25 PM
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45. I was there...more like 100,000


"abot to lose pa." ya' gotta link,my friend? Or do you just "know" ?

John...welcome back to "the Field", Old Friend.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:19 AM
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16. Apparently you don't know about the bad blood between them
They are not on good terms.
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old guy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:41 AM
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26. Part or all of it goes back to Ohio.
Edwards was not happy to give up without a fight.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:20 AM
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19. I can't wait until the general election...
when our candidate cedes the race...again...I don't know why people are getting so worked up. You'd think people thought their votes were going to count or something...That kind of thinking is soooo pre-2000.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:28 AM
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22. you can argue the merits of his decision
pro or con - but that doesn't make him an "asshole".
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libbygurl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:31 AM
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23. Not a surprise. Just recently, Edwards finally spoke out about their strong 'disagreements'...
...during the 04 campaign, and a lot of them ran very deep.

I'm not sure how this helps the endorsee, anyway, since Kerry was such a weak candidate himself. How he became the nom still boggles my mind.
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returnable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:32 AM
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24. Well, considering the Edwards camp has repeatedly dissed the Kerry campaign, what did you expect?
The Edwards folks dump on Kerry, and now they're surprised he's throwing his support behind someone else? I'm shocked!
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:39 AM
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25. And out of fifty states, look where he's doing it. What a jerk.
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 11:40 AM by midlife_mo_Jo
He's free to endorse whomever he wants, and I don't buy that he has to endorse Edwards, but by choosing SC, Kerry just looks like a vindictive, petty ass.

Screw him. Bad blood? So what.

Show some class, and pick one of the other 49 states to do it.


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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:51 AM
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29. Exactly.
You know they didn't pick right now by accident.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:18 PM
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41. Of course they picked it at the moment that would best help Obama's campaign.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:18 PM
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40. Yeah, how dare he endorse his chosen candidate at the site of the next primary.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:31 PM
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50. Politcally smart . This IS politics.
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:50 AM
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28. This is a totally unfair attack against Kerry.
For one thing, Kerry doesn't owe Edwards anything. In case you forgot, Kerry was the one who chose Edwards as his running mate, not the other way around. If anything, it is Edwards who owes Kerry.

For another, it is likely that Edwards and his people repeatedly refused to do what the Kerry campaign asked them to do in the 2004 campaign. Edwards refused to play the traditional VP role of attack dog. He refused to use the Kerry campaign message at the convention, and instead used his own. By the end of the campaign, my understanding is that the two men weren't even speaking to one another.

And finally, John Kerry is many things, but he is certainly not an asshole.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:56 AM
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30. I realize he can back anyone, that's not what has me steamed ...
It's choosing right now, before SC, to announce. It would have hurt Obama not one whit to wait a week. It's sending a message. It feels dirty, I don't like when Dems play like that. :(
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:59 AM
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31. That's politics.
Of course Kerry is going to announce his endorsement at whatever time the Obama campaign thinks it will have the greatest impact.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:19 PM
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42. It's dirty when the OTHER candidate has a good strategy
It's smart when YOUR candidate has a good strategy.

Nothing particularly surprising about that.

:-)
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:23 PM
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44. I know strategically it makes perfect sense
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 12:35 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
I could never go into politics myself, for that very reason.

edit: idiot spelling
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:19 PM
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43. Then....why let FD run amok on this website.
I will NOT go through this AGAIN on this website...defending a friend of 30+ years in gentlemanly terms.

This time IT IS PERSONAL.(to poach a familiar phrase ! lol)




My hero, Maj. General Hal Moore.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:01 PM
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32. Were you upset when Gore endorsed Dean over Lieberman?
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 12:01 PM by Occam Bandage
What an asshole.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:02 PM
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33. You're just trying to stir up anger among Edwards' supporters.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:03 PM
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35. Dude hates Obama. I don't think I've seen him do anything but post
anti-Obama one-paragraph hit-and-runs.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:28 PM
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48. You can run but you can't hide (especially HERE.) Skinner? You're up,Sir.
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 12:28 PM by GalleryGod

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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:07 PM
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36. It's a little early in the race for former presidential hopefuls to be picking a horse to back..
I think Kerry should have waited longer. He's really hurting Edwards' campaign.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:16 PM
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38. How do you feel about Bills endorsement ?
Just asking.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:36 PM
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53. Although I don't agree with him, I will stand behind Bill Clinton in his support
of you. You're a wonderful person, in everything you do, and should never question yourself. :thumbsup:
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:17 PM
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39. Shouldn't you endorse the person you think will be best for the position?
:shrug:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:32 PM
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51. I agree. I don't like this.
Even if he didn't want to endorse Edwards, he could have waited until the eventual nominee was chosen and went with that.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:33 PM
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52. Frankly, I think its better for Edwards that he didn't get his endorsement
After the B.S. dancing that Kerry did after the last election about not contesting the votes with Bush, I wouldn't want him anywhere near my campaign.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:40 PM
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54. so let's get this straight....
since Kerry picked Edwards as his VP he now must endorse him for all eternity?

typically weak pap from thou.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:42 PM
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55. He's endorsing the best person for the job, an honorable thing to do
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:45 PM
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56. He waited until it was clear Edwards isn't going to win the nomination.
That was proper.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:51 PM
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59. Very good point
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greguganus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:49 PM
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57. Will there be a place for Kerry in Obama's house if he wins? n/t
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:51 PM
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58. They were runningmates four years ago--it wasn't a civil union
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:53 PM
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61. Yawn. You'd attack Jesus himself if he dared speak against Hillary
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 12:53 PM by Azathoth
Your rep precedes you.
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