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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:37 AM
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Poll question: Obama and Clinton Supporters do you want Edwards to Bow out. after Super Tuesday
There are two legitimate schools of thought on this for a leading candidate perspective:

Edwards dropping out forces voters effectively to make a choice and might insure the nomination for the candidate you support

Edwards staying in insure that the other top cadidate does not win the nomination and we can fight it out in Denver.

Let me stress that this is clearly Edwards decision to make. It is simply a question of what Obama and Clinton backers think ought to happen

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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:39 AM
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1. I'd like Edwards to see he now has no chance and endorse Obama.
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 10:39 AM by Clarkansas
Going all out on Iowa and getting second, close to third place has proven to be a bad strategy for him.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:42 AM
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5. Me too
But I think he's hoping Obama slips somewhere and to be there to step into the #2 spot.
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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:45 AM
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10. Obama would have to be caught in bed with Newt Gingrich for Edwards to have a chance
I don't think that will happen.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:49 AM
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13. Well. it would put to rest these McGlurkin threads
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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:51 AM
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15. Haaaaaaa! eom
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:40 AM
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31. Trust me: they're not going to stop
Okay, the nomination or crossing of the threshold of the delegate count will probably tone them down significantly, but that's going to plague him for the rest of his life until he comes clean.

It wasn't just a "little thing"; it was deliberate cozying up to extreme bigotry for tactical gain, and the religious, racial and orientation issues are a glaring bright red light of extreme dishonesty and unfeeling, cold calculation. Had this been done by somebody who hadn't claimed as his mantle the inclusion of all and joyous hope, it might not have gotten such traction.

As it is, the media has been quite cooperative about his alliance with hatred; nary a word has been heard.

Some Obama supporters have expressed remorse and qualms, but even those marginalize the significance, and many don't see how this calls his very character into question in a huge way.

Once again: ANYBODY who doesn't see this as extreme religious, racial and homophobic bigotry and cowardly insulation from blame is morally stunted. Arguments about recourse or remedy aside, those who don't see this as deeply morally ugly have a problem.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:55 AM
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18. Did you see the exit polls from NH?
Obama voters weren't so strongly committed, at least in NH. It might not take much at all to get a shift.
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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:03 AM
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20. I saw the17% that Edwards got vs the 37% that Obama got.
And it is looking like Nevada and South Carolina will be similar.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:11 AM
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21. We'll see!
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 11:11 AM by redqueen
Obama's supporters probably said much the same thing to Clinton's supporters before NH.
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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:20 AM
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22. The difference is
Hillary Clinton has a strong campaign running in tons of states. She was the frontrunner for months, in most states.
Edwards went all in on Iowa, and didn't do as well as we hoped. He has nothing going on in any other state.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:22 AM
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23. Why do you still have his avatar?
I've seen you say nothing positive about his candidacy or campaign at all.
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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:31 AM
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27. Because I switched my support to Obama after New Hampshire
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 11:31 AM by Clarkansas
I don't post much, as you can see, but I am inspired by the fact that Hillary Clinton has a better chance of getting the nomination with every passing day Edwards is in this campaign. That bothers me a lot. It also bothers me that so many people close their eyes and think happy thoughts about the Edwards campaign. It is over. I will probably keep my avatar since I am proud of the both Edwards and Obama.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:38 AM
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29. It bothers me that someone supports Obama, but
says they like Edwards, while they trash his campaign & long-haul supporters every chance they get.

It "concerns" me.
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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:45 AM
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32. Your concern is noted.
Do you want me to sign a loyalty oath or something?

I, Clarkanasas, so solemnly swear that Edwards was favored candidate up until New Hampshire. It then became obvious to me that he had no chance. Because I like Obama a lot, but do not like Clinton, and because Obama is the only one who can defeat Clinton, I now support Obama.
Signed
Clarkansas
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:47 AM
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34. What?
I didn't ask you to do anything.

Do as you wish... I just will visualize an Obama avatar there when I read your posts, and it will make sense.

:hi:
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:43 PM
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39. Me too.
He has to unite the Anti-Hillary vote sooner or later. Sooner is better.

He's the one who can make this happen. I have faith in him.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:40 AM
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2. With the other two so close, if he endorses he can really have an effect.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:41 AM
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4. and therefore?????
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:57 AM
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19. He can have more of an impact now than later to choose who will be nominated.
However, if he believes he still has a shot himself, he should stay in.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:41 AM
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3. nice poll. it assumes you've picked a candidate...
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:42 AM
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6. The OP requests feedback from supporters of two specific candidates...
so yeah... it does.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:25 AM
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25. undecided voters are being PERSECUTED!!! =D
i like voting in polls =(
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:30 AM
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26. Me too!
*sniff, sniff* :P
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:42 AM
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7. ? Super Tuesday will decide who is our next President.
Dropping out before February 5th will be the only way he can help another candidate.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:46 AM
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11. I think we are headed for a brokerd conventions
ANd that it might come down to wherther or not FLorida and Michigan's delegates are seated. That is going to be a real war at the convention.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:42 AM
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8. none of the above- I HOPE Edwards stays in
because he has an important voice- and message and lifts the dialog for everyone - but I cannot blame him for whatever decision he makes. I'm grateful for his work- and his passion.

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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:44 AM
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9. I did not vote in the poll because
I want Edwards to stay in all the way.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:50 AM
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14. What she said. nt
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:12 PM
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35. Same here. Thank you. nt
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:46 AM
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12. Obama and Clinton supporters wanted Edwards to bow out in 2007. /nt
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:53 AM
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16. I want him to bow out now.
If he doesnt do it before super tuesday then I he may as well stay in it till the end. He is currently splitting a lot of the anti hillary vote with Obama. Getting out now before super tuesday could help increase Obamas chances of beating hillary. If he stays in till Super tuesday and loses again then his dropping will be too late to make much change on the outcome either way.

I respect his decision either way though he has every right to stay in as long a he wants.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:54 AM
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17. Other. I want Edwards to bow out when...
and only when he thinks he should, or stay in if he so desires.
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laureloak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:24 AM
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24. The Edwards message is being carried by Obama anyway. n/t
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:32 AM
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28. I want him to drop out now
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:39 AM
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30. If you want Clinton to win, you want Edwards to stay in. If you want Obama to win, you want him out.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 11:46 AM
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33. If he really wants "change," he'll bow out after he comes in third in SC.
n/t
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:35 PM
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36. If Obama wins SC handidly He might drop out and endorse Obama
If it is tight win for Obama he might stay in

If Clinton wins who knows?
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:36 PM
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37. He should do right by his supporters
But I just don't see how he wins, or forces a brokered convention, if he remains in 3rd place.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:40 PM
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38. Edwards needs to stay in, because he's the best of the three.
Hopefully, the voters will reject the media hype and vote for Kucinich or Edwards.

Who the Hell (besides corporations, republicans, and the DLC - at the risk of repeating myself) ever thought forcing a nomination 9 months before the election was a good idea??
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mrgorth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:46 PM
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40. I want what's best for the country
I think that John probably has the right idea policy-wise but I don't know if he has the steam to get the nom. Can Obama still get the nom w/ John in the race I don't know. I don't care for Hillary and I don't think she can win the general. BUT, I don't care whether Obama or Edwards gets it. So, whatever gets a dem in the WH. As of right now I'd say the best cghance for that is Edwards dropping out and endorsing Obama but I understand why his supporters don't want that. I'm just being logical. I just want to get a dem in so we can start fixing the country.
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:48 PM
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41. As non-commited(more or less) I think it is always preferable to have as many running as possible..
that way more issues are apt to be addressed.
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