I feel sorry for Edwards that Kerry endorsed Obama

[itsrobert]

It almost makes me want to "cry" that Kerry would cheat on Edwards like this. This makes me want to vote for Edwards more.

[DS1]

1. There's no such thing as cheating in politics

Everyone's screwing everyone on the way to the top.

[Mass]

2. Cheated? Wait a minute? Why did Kerry cheat on Edwards?

When Edwards is going around attacking Kerry or ignoring the 04 run, I somehow doubt he wanted Kerry's endorsement. If he wanted it, Elizabeth and he had a weird way of showing it.

[itsrobert]

6. Kerry/Edwards had a political marriage

Now Kerry is sleeping with the enemy. That's how. Americans like their "stories".

[Mass]

7. LOL. that has to be the most stupid argument I know. May be Kerry did not think that Edwards was the

best president among those running.

[Blue-Jay]

3. "cheat on"?

Uh....OK.

[ShortnFiery]

26. I don't think the might Clintonians should wish to focus on the term "cheat on"

:rofl:

[bdamomma]

4. well apparently there must be some "bad blood" between them

just my opinion on the situation. Maybe John Edwards was not to happy when John Kerry conceded so soon after the election.

[Mass]

5. Or may be John Kerry was not exactly excited by John Edwards's campaigning for him?

[The Traveler]

16. Edwards and Kerry

Did not see eye to eye on how to deal with the Swift voting thing, and how to deal with the election mess (fraud) in Ohio. Frankly, I think Kerry wimped out, and apparently so did Edwards.

[sandnsea]

21. The VP is the attack dog

The VP didn't attack. But that some person does nothing but attack now. I think that about says it all.

[The Traveler]

29. BS

He is doing a lot more than attacking now. Check out what Paul Krugman says about his health care policy and his economic policy. Edwards calls out on being cozy with the coporatists ... if that is an attack, then I say it is one well made.

[sandnsea]

32. I didn't say that's all he's doing

I said he wouldn't attack then because he wanted to retain his optimistic image. He does attack now, example being the 'status quo' bomb on Hillary, since he's changed his image. Which is his business, but he shouldn't go around blaming the campaign for not attacking, when HE is the one who didn't want to do it.

[The Traveler]

46. I quote from your post above

" But that some person does nothing but attack now."

That may not be what you intended, but it is what you said. And to that I must repeat: BS.

His point of "attack" remains in my view well formed ... I do not dislike Hillary, but I think she is just too damn comfy with the entities that are draining this country dry. You may disagree with me, and that is certainly your right.

Opinions are like assholes ... everyone has one, and mine could very well be wrong. But here it is, for you consideration, friend.

But in my view, her attitude towards the corporatist elite (and her many connections financial and otherwise to it) was less onerous in the 90s, before we knew just how rapacious they would truly become. Now, in order to restore an effective balance between private and public sectors, we have to take on the bad actors ... the drug companies, insurance companies, energy cartels, defense contractors, etc. It is not that we need these entities to go away ... but we have to beat them back into their proper role. I view that as vital to the America's future. She has not exactly been eager to belly up to the bar on that one, so I view Edwards' "status quo" bomb as being a legitimate reaction to her stated positions.

His (and my view) on the corporatocracy and the way to deal with it may be wrong, but fighting for a deeply held belief cannot be construed as a defect of character.

See ya later, friend.

[murbley40]

37. Exactly.!!

[rodeodance]

8. i AM SAD ALSO. Cheating?? no,

[GalleryGod]

35. A Good,Solid Endorsement...that's all.

My Hero,Hal Moore,in the midst of the shiite @ LZ X-RAY



Welcome back to the fight, old friend!

[cali]

9. Wha'???

Cheat? How old are you? This is politics.

[GalleryGod]

38. Saddle-Up, John!

Welcome back to the fight,Old Friend!

[bunnies]

10. Well.... Inciting sympathy as a political strategy...

seems like it could work.

[itsrobert]

That's what I looking for

Americans like their "soap operas".

[bunnies]

24. No question about that.

I think we should all have learned a valuable lesson from recent political events. I for one, find myself looking at many things with fresh eyes. Including this endorsement.

[cmaff05]

11. John Kerry regretted choosing John Edwards

as his running mate. It's not a surprise that he is not endorsing John Edwards.

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. Why not...he hoped to get at least close in ONE Southern state behind Edwards

Edwards could not deliver that.

No doubt, Kerry's faults contributed to this problem, and he may have been asking Edwards to deliver the impossible, but still.

[chimpymustgo]

20. Kerry refused to put any RESOURCES into any southern states. That's what Edwards was PO'd about.

They disagreed on strategy (contesting in the South) and contesting the Ohio vote, which Edwards STRONGLY wanted to do.

[Mass]

23. And, of course, I am supposed to believe you and Edwards on that.

[stillrockin]

12. Kerry, you don't make me sad, you make me SICK.

[JCMach1]

25. Exactly... Still doing his best to screwup our elections

:(

[ShortnFiery]

33. Kerry, you may just "shake up" the odds ...

Bless you ... you may have been DLC's anointed one, but they never really loved ya (Hillary wanted it to be her prize in 2008).

But I love ya! :loveya: :patriot:

[KittyWampus]

13. It should make you cry that Kerry's progressive record towers over Edwards new found FAKE rhetoric

[zulchzulu]

15. Why?

Edwards and his wife have dissed Kerry over the years and frankly, he was not a very good VP candidate.

Move on.

[RufusTFirefly]

17. The MSM keeps telling us it's a two-person race

How can you endorse a candidate who doesn't even exist?

For Obama or Clinton, it requires only one step: Endorse.

For Edwards, it's a two-step process

1. Prove he exists
2. Endorse him

Very sad, given that it's only January 10, 2008 and there are 48 states to go. The combined populations of Iowa and New Hampshire (approximately 4.2 million) account for less than 1.5 percent of the country's population (approximately 303 million). But then, there have been many who wanted to declare the race over months before the first vote was cast.

[sandnsea]

18. Well maybe he learned a thing or two

but didn't think it appropriate to run around the country making smarmy comments because he has more integrity in his little finger nail than most people ever gain in a lifetime.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

19. The Poster Started This Thread To Diss Hillary Hence The "Cry" Remark And He's Getting Herbed

ROTFLMFAO

[ShortnFiery]

22. Oh please dispense with those crocodile tears? If wise, EDWARDS will make a fine VP as

well as trusted friend and adviser to President Obama.

Damn if I "lay down" and let the RNC, DLC and media whores pick our next nominee. :grr:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. John Kerry Is A Member Of The DLC

http://illinois062006.mydd.com/story/2006/5/27/55951/1586

[ShortnFiery]

40. But he was never truly "an insider." Sort of like Colin Powell could not ever

be made privy to the BushBotBorg's trusty "inner circle." Kerry just isn't RIGHT and CORPORATE-WHORE LOVING enough to qualify for such coveted memberships. :shrug:

But "no worries" like the bilge-water of RW ghouls who constitute Opus Dei, Kerry really never aspired to be a full-fledged member of either the political or the religious aristocracies.

[bluedog]

28. maybe now.Edwards will come out against Obama

and call him on his policies or lack of them.......

[ShortnFiery]

44. Yes, a true blue populist would be THRILLED with a third Clintonian Executive Branch.

:crazy:

If Edwards is courageous enough to choose wisely, he'll agree to be Obama's running mate. :shrug:

[Clarkansas]

30. I think it is great news for Obama.

Kerry, like me, recognizes that this is a two person race now. Unfortunate that it had to happen after only two states, but that is what happens when you bank almost everything on Iowa and come in 2nd, very close to third.

[midnight]

31. Even Clinton didn't endorse Gore's rival...... This is a bit of bad

thinking. Any way you discribe your reacation, cheating comes close to that feeling of this is not right somehow.

[PATRICK]

34. More to stop Clinton

out of consideration for issues and how we will be leading after November. I think, like Gore endorsing Dean, he quickly sees an alarming moment when the voice he most likes will get swamped by mere establishment power. It is or isn't crucial moment, but I would guess(only guess) this is meant to throw some personal support for knocking the losing establishment that did Kerry no good. Gore knew dean was in trouble and that the endorsement was not a sure thing at all. It was a voice for the vision.

Now Edwards is not leading and this is not a moment when a voice can feel that kind of need or moment for him. Via staffers we know that all is not rosy between them and that Edwards like anyone branching off on his own has broken away from the 2004 debacle in which Kerry had some complaints against him. You can argue the merits, but arguing tells what it is all about.

This has less to do with Edwards(maybe subtext) than with the not always marvelous but well intentioned political judgment and passion of Kerry. He likes the force and eloquence of Obama. He is utterly po'd and rankled by the hobbling of Congress by the centrist leaders trying to build nerf walls around the entire fall campaign so they lead this eternal gridlock into a non existent corporate pollyannaland.

So all candidates, except Obama who can take this as a mark of admiration and faith, need not take this personally. It is a statement about the system and change as Kerry sees it. It also ties Obama to the liberal wing once again so that he simply won't be trying to put on the Third Way bs with high rhetoric. Insofar that he can keep Obama from adopting more DLC poison and push his governance more to the "old" liberal, that is a plus for all of us, even Hillary if she is forced to really change her direction away from disaster.

There. You don't have to read the most bitter and paranoid things into a plain endorsement. If you are going to second guess and look for the dark side you'll only create an effect you don't really profit from.

My second guessing is better than yours. Nyah.

[murbley40]

36. It was widely known

That there were some hard feelings between the Kerrys and the Edwards. I am sure that Edwards did not expect Kerry to endorse him. I think Edwards did not want Kerry to give up the fight as soon as he did.

[BenDavid]

39. I would of thought Kerry, if he were not going to endorse Edwards

would have had the decency not to endorse anyone. I would of at least thought he might consider HRC because when Kerry needed help to win Pa. in 04 to whom did he turn? uh huh Bill Clinton..... on October 25,04, WJC made his first public appearance after heart surgery in Philadelphia and helped Kerry a week later carry Pa.

[Frances]

42. I think Kerry has a tin ear

This endorsement just makes Kerry look petty.

John Kerry is not a popular figure in South Carolina so his endorsement does Obama no good and maybe even some harm.

[ShortnFiery]

45. I think that we're going to be saying, "President McCain" OR "President Romney" next year.

But far too many good Americans are going to be DUPED by the political ruling class ... again. :(

Have at it!

[no name no slogan]

41. Probably without the benefit of the reach-around, too

OTOH, I wouldn't exactly say Kerry has the "Midas Touch" these days. An endorsement from him may do more harm than good.

[Strawman]

43. By that logic Al Gore should have endorsed Joementum instead of Dean

JK should endorse whomever he thinks is the best candidate. His rationale is sensible.

[Frances]

47. I'm not saying that Hillary or Edwards are better candidates

than Obama.

I'm just saying that Kerry's endorsement of Obama in South Carolina will not gain Obama a single South Carolina vote. It may lose some votes for Obama.

I think Kerry is a very courageous, honest individual, but I don't think he has good political instincts.

[Strawman]

48. My guess is that it makes no difference at all in the polls

It may influence a small group of big donors who are tight with Kerry and Kerry's hard core constituency among Democratic activists.