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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:16 AM
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When will Obama call for an end to the email smear campaign against Hillary?
"The Clintons now charge the Secret Service $10,000 monthly rent for the use of (a) Secret Service residence and that rent is just about equal to their mortgage payment."
Chain e-mail on Monday, September 17th, 2007 in an e-mail message circulated by many people.

The Clintons don't receive money from Secret Service

A chain e-mail alleges that Bill and Hillary Clinton are cashing in on a policy in which the Secret Service reimburses the people it protects for space in their homes that is used by agents
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/131/
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Clinton "refused repeated requests to meet with the Gold Star Mothers."
Chain e-mail on Wednesday, October 17th, 2007 in an e-mail message circulated by many people.

She has met with them four times

This rumor started in 2001 after two officials from the Gold Star Mothers, two moms whose children were killed in combat, dropped by Clinton's new Senate office. They did not have an appointment and Clinton was not in the office.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/130/
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An anonymous e-mail says that Hillary Clinton advocates communism.
Chain e-mail on Wednesday, December 12th, 2007 in

Hillary's no red menace

An anonymous chain e-mail maligns Hillary Clinton in the form of a “gotcha”-style quiz


http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/221/
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We hear constantly on DU that all smears start at the top, so when will the Top of the Obama campaign call for an end to the email smear campaign against Senator Clinton?
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:18 AM
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1. What? These are really awful. Clinton better yell from the rooftops
to stop these lies.
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Konza Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:19 PM
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28. there's a worse one out
that claims Clinton is a lesbian in love with a muslim woman.
And there are the numerous ones that say Barack Obama is a closet muslim who will destroy America.

The person I feel most sorry for is John Edwards though.

I mean, he's out there bustin his butt and he can't get any press, not even slanderous emails!

Ba dum ching!
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:20 AM
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2. Are these being forwarded by Obama's campaign or is Obama supposed to denounce
every anti-Clinton statement made daily in this nation?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:27 AM
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7. Let's look at your question.
Is Clinton supposed to denounce every anti-Obama statement made daily in this nation? To read DU one could easily come to that conclusion.
Clinton is denounced for every fantasy and rumor in existance regarding Obama. So in response, why shouldn't Obama be asked to call for an end for every actual anti-Clinton smear?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:44 AM
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16. ...
:crazy:
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:22 AM
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3. These are all pretty old
What evidence do you have that the Obama campaign is using these?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:28 AM
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8. September, October, and December of '07 is "pretty old"?
So "old" email smears don't count?
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:08 AM
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19. They are much, much, older than that.
Several of them go back 5 or 6 years, long before Obama was even elected to the U.S. Senate. It's obvious that they have nothing to do with him or his campaign.

For him to mention them at all right now could be a double edged sword. Sure, it might be nice for him to say how awful they are. But if he does that, many will just accuse him of drawing extra attention to them to try to hurt Hillary.

I don't see a good play for him either way here. In a similar vein, I don't know that Hillary should ever mention all of the unbelievably awful emails that have been circulating about Obama for the past year or so. We know she's not responsible for them. Why elevate them?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:22 AM
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4. Well, we all know Obama has total control over chain e-mail smears.
:eyes:
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:23 AM
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5. Oh please...
...The Clintons are the subject of some bizarre, baseless accusations on an obscure Web site that
5 people read...and Obama is supposed to publicly come to their defense?

Meanwhile, the morning shows are leading with how "genuine" and "authentic" Hillary was with her
crying. The show shrinks can't get enough of how real she is.

Please. Give me a break.

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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:30 AM
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9. If you read Bernstein's Book,You won't have to wait long
to see Hill go back in the shell...sorry to report.

Come on my show !?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 06:11 PM
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27. She was a human mollusk...
...the entire time she was in Iowa.

She never took questions and evaded the press.

I was insulted at first.

Now, I think my entire state just dodged a bunch of yuck.

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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:23 AM
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6. When will Clinton apologize for the anti-Obama "madrassa" chain emails
which came from her campaign workers
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:30 AM
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10. Good debunking. I wonder if Bush family charges for their protection?
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vee Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:31 AM
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11. When is Hillary
going to call for an end to the forum smear campaign against Obama?
When will she issue a formal denouncement of this underhanded tactic?

Example:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4020811
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:33 AM
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13. Welcome to DU! You can get your Obama logo by clicking on 'Options' at the top of the page.
:hi:
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vee Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:53 AM
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17. Thanks, glad to be here,
Curious though, why would a Richardson supporter post this?
What's the strategy?
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:14 AM
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20. There has been a fair amount of speculation...
...over the past several months that Richardson was only in this race to qualify as Hillary's VP. I don't know how much stock I would put in that, but he does have lots of historical ties to the Clintons.

The real question is where will his supporters go now? That's already being discussed in other threads right now.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:32 AM
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12. so sad
to see you going off the deep end.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:34 AM
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14. Just holdin' up the mirror, cali.
You know how *some people* hate that...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 09:41 AM
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15. this isn't holding up the mirror
and honestly I think you're far better a person than the OP would indicate. I ferociously defended Clinton when people tried to pin the "Muslim email" thing on her and her campaign. I defended her against the charges here about Bill Shaheen. You're engaging in petty nastiness.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 10:07 AM
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18. whew! its a good thing Obama is not getting smeared by emails!
wow, how lucky is that?
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:39 PM
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21. You have to admit that Obama really thinks ahead.

I first saw these emails seven years ago. Who'd have thought Obama would be running against Clinton seven years later?


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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 01:50 PM
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22. You saw that 3 year old email 7 years ago?
Wow, you Obama folks plan ahead.

ieo, this thread is mocking a few certain DUers who blame everything that happens 'bad' to their candidate on a diabolical sceme concocted by Hillary Clinton herself. Their hysterical claim Clinton is personaly behind every little pimple on Barack's butt is as absurd as blaming Barack for an email claiming Hillary is a Red. To me, that is. YMMV.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:16 PM
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23. The first one is seven years old. n/t
Edited on Thu Jan-10-08 02:17 PM by ieoeja
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:42 PM
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26. Yet you typed this: "I first saw these emails seven years ago."
Good luck to your candidate.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:19 PM
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24. What? She can't handle it herself?
In case you just crawled out of a hole, the Clintons offer a billion dollar industry for people who hate them to write books, send emails, make t-shirts, produce buttons, make movies and have the Republican National Committee batcave meetings have posters of them in their conference rooms.

Should Obama try to stop all that for her? She's just a girl?

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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 02:22 PM
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25. She's too experienced to get all worked up over some emails.
Leave that hand waving and wailing to the novice campaigners.
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