If Obama Loses Big In Super Tuesday, Does He Pull Out Of The Race?

[fightindonkey]

At what point is it over?

[TwilightGardener]

1. If he doesn't have the delegates, and can't possibly get them, yes.

[andyrowe]

2. wrong question.

Hildog barely edged out Obama with New Hampshire's lower turnout. You can't take away what Obama did in Iowa nor what he will soon do in South Carolina. NH is just a cranky grandpa state that hates being told who's won before the polls open. Obama will be the nominee.

[ORDem]

5. Maybe, ...

but I think you're underestimating the Clinton slime machine. You're also underestimating how much Edwards' presence is hurting Obama (love Edwards by the way, but he can't get the nomination at this rate). And ... HRC has the SuperDs in her corner pretty much, the party machine.

Even if Obama doesn't get the nomination he won't have done himself any harm by running now. Five years from now we'll still be mired in Iraq (Neither HRC or McCain will pull them out) and Barack will get another shot.

[Egnever]

6. Five years from now assuming Hillary wins

she gets the nod again uncontested.

And if she gets that one her VP goes on from there uncontested. His time is now.

[Hippo_Tron]

9. They had no problem with it in 2004

[MonkeyFunk]

13. lower turnout?

lower than what? They had record turnout.

[shraby]

3. When the fat lady sings.

[andyrowe]

4. I love it. n/t

[FlyingSquirrel]

7. If BOTH Obama and Clinton Lose big and Edwards gets 85%....

I really think they should both pull out.

:evilgrin:

(But first they probably better check the machines)

:popcorn:

[musicblind]

12. lol

[Thrill]

8. Will Hillary?

[JI7]

10. i'm guessing that will be true of both Hillary and Obama

[CyberPieHole]

11. No. He'll pull out the Race Card...

out of desperation.

[RummyTheDummy]

16. Wow, you're a disgusting little cuss aren't you?

A perfect reflection of that corrupt, slimey canidate you worship. Now go iron my fucking shirt.

[sunonmars]

14. I suspect the DNC will force its hand then

If one of them takes a majority say 60%+ of the Super Tuesday states then i think its over and the DNC will force its hand.

I dont think it matters of Nevada or SC, it will Feb 5th, it will be over then i think.

They want this wrapped up way before the convention in order to prepare for the election campaign, thats just the way they operate.

[Konza]

15. My super high tech simluations say

Super Tuesday will decide the nomination.
I say this because my super high tech computer simulation is a game called "President Forever; Primary Edition".
LOL

Dont laugh too much though, it's as accurate as Chris Matthews!

After dozens of simulated campaigns here is what I have found:
Obama has a difficult, but not impossible, time winning the primaries, but once he wins the nomination he sweeps the general. Out of about 10 runs he usually wins the general with 300+ electoral votes. I've only lost with Obama once, to Mitt Romney of all people!

Clinton can win the nomination easily but she gets hammered in the general. She can win the general, but her negatives get hit and all the republicans do is drive down her popularity with scandal attacks and negative ads. But Clinton can win with an extremely narrow focus, basically abandoning the South and the West and sneakin out a narrow general election victory with like 271-290 electoral votes.
I've only won it 1 out of about 6 times with Hillary, but yes peoples, it can be done.

Edwards has a very difficult, but still not impossible, chance with both. He is seriously hurt by money in the primaries and if you play it it will make you so frustrated. But he is more competitive than Clinton in general with some support in the South. Sounds silly, but if a Democrat can pull a few southern states it makes a huge difference.
Gore fares the best out of others and also rans, but not nearly as good as I would have expected.

Actually a dang fun game, if you are a junkie. Probably not much of an indicator, being a game and all, but thats my 2 cents. NV and SC will give someone momentum, but the super tuesday will decide the nominee. On Feb 6 we will be 90% sure who the nominee is.
peace.

[cali]

17. What's losing big in your book?

I'm not clear on that. Let me define it. Losing big would mean losing CA,CT, MA, GA and 7 or 8 more of the large and medium size states. If that happens, he should pull out. Absolutely. Now reverse that; if Hillary loses in such a scenario should she drop out?