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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:49 PM
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Okay...maybe it's just me.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 11:17 PM by Mythsaje
But this place is going fucking nuts lately. I mean, seriously. The pontifications of Karl Rove? Here?

:wtf: Do people even read what they're writing anymore? Do they even think about it?

We've got people saying "Oh, Obama isn't really black" and "The racists will never let us elect a black man."

We've got people saying "Hillary's a heartless monster," and "she's playing the victim card."


But, in all justice, I should mention that it's not just here. The ability some people have for holding totally opposing thoughts in their heads at the same time is hardly remarkable on the outside world either. I had some guy tell me yesterday what he thought the premise of my novels was all about, and how it "tied my hands" with regards to further plotlines, all without reading anything but a 300 word promo piece posted to an e-mail group. The arrogance was stunning.

Now we've got people who want to insist we start using IMHO more regularly. I'm not sure why it should even be necessary, but I'll bite.

Let me let folks in on a little secret. THIS IS ALL MY FUCKING OPINION. I happen to think rather highly of it, but that doesn't mean anyone else has to. It's an honor that some people do. But it's STILL simply my opinion.

I'm beyond asking folks to try to be a little more civil to one another. That's a lost cause. But maybe, just maybe, people can stop and think before posting something that sounds COMPLETELY ignorant? Can we can the subtle and not so subtle sexism and racism? Can we talk about issues and the presentation of the issues and not cosmetic bullshit like a bunch of freepers?

Civility might be out of reach. But should logic and proportion? Areour perspectives so skewed that we toss out the most ridiculous statements without bothering to check with our brains first?

Sheesh, folks. Another long-time DUer left today because of some of this. I nearly stormed out the other night because of the racist drivel someone was spouting and my almost irresistable urge to seriously fire him up.

Can we possibly THINK before we post a little more often? Can we stop and ask ourselves, "am I going to sound like a fucking moran if I post this?" Or "Am I really being as clever here as I think I am?"

This has gone far beyond simply arguing, or even taking potshots at one another. It's become the political equivilant of monkeys throwing poo. And DU is not only getting splattered up pretty good, but it's starting to smell funny.

If we can't be civil, can we at least try to be smart?

Or is that asking too much?
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:51 PM
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1. Oooh, a good rant nt
:thumbsup:
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:54 PM
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2. It's become the political equivilant of monkeys throwing poo.
:yourock:
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:55 PM
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3. It's not just you.
Opinion has replaced fact and is now defended as such.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:04 PM
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4. Bravo!!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:06 PM
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5. you say what I didn't have the guts to say myself
and so much more eloquently. :)

:applause:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:14 PM
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6. What!? You PM me something like this every week!
And I keep promising you I'll try to "do better." :evilgrin:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:32 PM
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12. I thought you could keep a secret! damn it!
now I have to disappear and re-invent myself again. what a hassle.

:evilgrin:


:loveya:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:51 PM
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14. Oh, we'll KNOW who you are.
we'll know by all them FLOATY HEARTS you're always passing around! :loveya:
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:20 AM
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15. I beg your pardon!
I only dish out the floaty-hearts to the ones that deserve them.

Can I help it if there happen to be several outstanding members worthy of floaty-hearts here? :shrug:

:D


:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:31 AM
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17. Yes. Mythsaje is one such member...
And VIVALA!!!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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Hey...and I ain't even drunk!
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:19 PM
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7. Asking Too Much
IMHO.
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:19 PM
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8. I've only been here for 3 years now...
...but as long as I've been here people have been saying "it's not like it used to be! everyone's going crazy! it's never been this bad!"

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:22 PM
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9. LOL
I don't know. Lately it's gotten VERY weird. I've been here for going on three years now and I've never seen it quite this bad. It's not even the nastiness, but the stupidity.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 04:45 PM
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18. "It's not even the nastiness, but the stupidity."
Well, that's one sure way to tell when the Freepers have arrived.

Series y'all, try staying away from the individual candidate threads for a day or two and your perspective will change. There's no back-stabbing, throat-slitting, gut-punching or anvil-dropping going on in the non-candidate threads.

Besides Mythsaje, you should be spending YOUR time researching and writing new stuff, not reading our lame shit.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:27 PM
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10. ___
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:30 PM
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11. I'm sorry and afraid your asking too much.
This place has reached the bottom of the barrel!

Well said, couldn't have my expressed all my reasoning as well as you did. Three cheers for Mythsage! Rah! Rah! Rah! :hug:

By the way...who left today? I was just going to leave too when Hillary won so I'll stick around a little longer and give it a try...but I'm not very optimistic.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:37 PM
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13. You know...I don't even remember who it was.
Somebody who'd been here a LONG time though. Long than me, that's for sure.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 12:29 AM
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16. Not just you.
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